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Page 57: Already Dead

Monday, June 11th, 2007

Jimmy’s mom makes me sad.

66 Responses to “Page 57: Already Dead”

  1. Violinagin Says:

    This is so cool, scary and sad, all at the same time. I love it. No comments?

  2. Shlippy Says:

    Wouldn’t 1 tap to the head have sufficed? I mean, don’t the need to conserve ammo?

  3. Bobby Crosby Says:

    He shot the mother once and Jimmy once.

  4. Shlippy Says:

    Ah, is that what he did? Couldn’t tell without the action lines.

  5. Hagar Says:

    He could have killed them without using a gun, saving two bullets for later use.

    He did the most humane thing of course, killing them both very fast.

    I wonder if the survivors are going to protest about the fact that he killed the mother?

    And where is Val hanging out? (rhetorical questions Bobby, don’t spoil it ;) )

    good job on the art and the writing

    Hagar

  6. Chris Says:

    The fourth panel makes me think of a dark western gunslinger moment where the lack of pity here is the only thing that allows the job to get done. Very harsh feelings and great perspective for the reader.

    Did April leave before Math killed them? I kinda figure not and she’ll lose some of her inital openess towards Math after seeing him like this.

    And Jimmy’s teeth in the 2nd panel serious freak me out.

  7. Klu Says:

    Man, this comic keeps getting better and better with every page that comes out!

  8. Lawl Says:

    His lack of pity? There has to be a tiny bit of pity if he’s apologizing to Jimmy. Even if its very, very, very tiny.

  9. Hyshinara Says:

    in the previous comic it looked like jimmy was holding a brain
    so i thought he was eating her brain…
    but here it looks like he took a piece from her shoulder…

    so which is it? :/

  10. Bobby Crosby Says:

    I addressed this at length in the comments for the previous page, but this page obviously answers your question. Neck/shoulder. The previous page doesn’t make it clear what he’s eating.

  11. Paul Says:

    :’( I really liked jimmy…. Just because he wanted to be a bad ass and kill zombies :P

  12. achrin Says:

    jimmy looked like he was dead and loving it … same way he liked being the heroic protector with the gun …. live life to the fullest … and death also … when it comes your way .. the question is .. did he bite his mother or tear it off .. bite i think .. could be wrong

  13. Courtney Says:

    Poor Jimmy’s mom… (I already mourned Jimmy, but Jimmy’s mom being eaten alive by her own son and then watching him get shot by Math…)
    Poor people. They’re probably gonna get all stupid about Math now, because he killed Jimmy and his mom. I hope Somebody sticks up for the fact that Jimmy and his mom would’ve come upstairs to kill them. Maybe it’ll be April? Or maybe April will be giving Math the silent treatment and trying to stay as far away as possible. That’s what most girls do when they find out the guy they’re falling for really IS a killer.
    I don’t pity Math. He knows what he’s doing.

  14. Enrique Says:

    That really was gut-wrenching, pulls at your heart strings. I think this is the most emotinally impacting page done thus far.

  15. jen Says:

    If you think about it, Jimmy’s mom probably didn’t have to watch Jimmy get shot (small consolation, I know). But it looks like Math was pointing the gun down in the fourth panel, and then back up at Jimmy for the second shot.

    I do this a lot, but again, I’m sorry if this has already been answered.

    What happens if a vampire gets bitten by a zombie? Can vampires turn into zombies?

  16. Nova Says:

    Kinda like in Bec with those demon children things @____@;;

    Yes, the first zombie was once a vampire. They turn into zombies if they are deprived of blood for a long time, after a considerable amount of pain ^^

  17. Amyln Says:

    Aw dang it, I really like Jimmy. I was hoping he’d grow up to be like…an uber cool leader to help fight the zombies!!! >

  18. Jeffrey Gibson Says:

    Man, I really feel bad for the vampire having to deal with this.

  19. Outshined Says:

    This comic took a dark turn very suddenly… I like it =D

  20. Courtney Says:

    He’ll probably say no. I don’t remember why, but I’m pretty sure they don’t/can’t. He’ll probably say he hasn’t thought about it because he doesn’t have to because it doesn’t impact his story at all. :)

  21. Grant Says:

    I am hardly the Religious Right (I develop porn sites after all) but I think the “fuck” is unnecessary and a detriment to both the character and the rhythm of the words. It would seem that “Get the fuck out” is a little too panicky or just generally to emotional to come from a cool cucumber like Math.

    Love this story all the same.

  22. Jim Says:

    It’s been addressed before. Nothing happens when a zombie biites a vampire or vice versa. Except… y’know. Toothmarks.

  23. AD Says:

    April is probably still there, watching Math smoke Jimmy and his mom. The last two panels are very film noir’ish. Except that its in a comic…yeah, you get what I’m saying.

    Aw but why did you have to say the F-word Math? High pressure situation I guess.

    I wonder what April’s post-shooting reaction will be. Please don’t make her freak out or start screaming or anything. I would almost like her to be the strong silent type.

  24. Rena Says:

    This page plucks at the heart strings…It’ll be interesting to see which way April reacts– silent treatment, hysteria or grave acceptance.

  25. Edward Says:

    “Aw but why did you have to say the F-word Math? High pressure situation I guess.”

    It’s not it’s a family friendly comic or anything. People being eaten, sex, all that stuff.

    But yeah, 6+ billion zombies and watching an adorable little kid eat his mother alive while she begs you to spare his unlife is bound to produce some stress.

    Best strip yet. Panel 3 rocks my socks something fierce.

  26. Dirge Says:

    Man this is one hell of a Page!
    First: Jimmy looks so creepy in the second panel, looks more like he’s trying to protect his food than attack Math… and Math? Hell that’s what i think is a Vampire, without a concious, or maybe just ’cause he has a concious he shot them both?

    Great Comic, i’m really interested in how they get the Zombies out of the School, or themselves out, what’s safer.
    Hope Paine (the Genius Vampdoc) finds some Medicine fast~

  27. spacklegeek Says:

    This is one of my favorite pages yet! My love for Math continues to grow. (Taken out of context, I don’t think I’d ever have the words “love for” and “math” in the same sentence… whoa.)

    If April is freaked out by Math’s seemingly merciless killing of Jimmy and Mom, I think I’d lose some faith in her character. I mean, sure it’s terrible, but what else can a person do to a zombie and inevitable zombie? This isn’t Shaun of the Dead (a film I saw for the very first time last Saturday, and loved), and I don’t think Jimmy would be very good chained up, anyway. Scary, scary teeth.

    :D I can’t wait til Wednesday.

  28. Bobby Crosby Says:

    “Did April leave before Math killed them?”

    Darn, yeah, she definitely did. I hoped that was apparent.

    “(I already mourned Jimmy, but Jimmy’s mom being eaten alive by her own son and then watching him get shot by Math…)”

    ARGH! I hate comics. She didn’t watch him get shot by Math. He shot her first and then Jimmy. See in Panel 4 how he’s pointing his gun very low, towards the ground, towards Jimmy’s mom? Then we hear two BANGs! He shot her first, then pointed the gun at Jimmy and shot him.

    “What happens if a vampire gets bitten by a zombie? Can vampires turn into zombies?”

    I’ve answered this about 70 times, but anyway, nothing happens when a vampire bites a zombie and nothing happens when a zombie bites a vampire.

    “I am hardly the Religious Right (I develop porn sites after all) but I think the ‘fuck’ is unnecessary and a detriment to both the character and the rhythm of the words. It would seem that ‘Get the fuck out’ is a little too panicky or just generally to emotional to come from a cool cucumber like Math.”

    I completely disagree on both of those points. “Get the fuck out” is a popular term on the internet nowadays, so it gets a laugh from a lot of people when Math says it like that. Also, the whole point is to make April understand that she has to leave right the fuck NOW without wasting time arguing with her. “GET THE FUCK OUT” accomplishes this, especially when saying he’s only gonna say this once right before that. We don’t even need to see her leaving because she’s already gone, instantly.

    “I wonder what April’s post-shooting reaction will be. Please don’t make her freak out or start screaming or anything. I would almost like her to be the strong silent type.”

    She’s upstairs already.

    I completely disagree that Math needs to be under stress to say “fuck” — he just said what he needed to say at the moment to make April leave immediately to save her life. There’s still tons of zombies around, you know, and Math is going to have to kill a whole bunch of ‘em in the gym to save Murdo in a second

    “or maybe just ’cause he has a concious he shot them both?”

    He shot them both because one’s a zombie and one’s about to be a zombie after she dies in under a minute.

  29. Euphoria Says:

    Nova…mentioned Bec…Darren Shan…*big fan*
    Oh god that scene was one of the most brutal he’s ever written xD

    BUT ANYWAYS.

    Amazing page, Jimmy’s mum is heart wrenching…

    This has probably been answered many times, but how did they end up in that room?

  30. Stephanie Says:

    I think people understand the mom getting shot first, [or even getting shot at all] a lot easier if you seperated the sound effect ‘bang bang’ in the last panel. The gap in between the words would help symbolize the pause in which he shifts positions to shoot Jimmy [I miss him already. D:] Since they’re so close together, I just assumed he shot Jimmy twice. Fascinating art on this page, best so far in my opinion. But that might just be because it’s so emotional.

    Great job on making us love Jimmy’s character. If he had died earlier without being developed- we wouldn’t miss him at all.

    About the ‘gtfo’ thing, well…I thought it was a bit odd but not all that weird. He just seemed so ‘classy’ that I assumed he wouldn’t curse. Probably an old vampire stereotype.

    I’m a big fan of this comic, thank you for making it available on the interwebs. =D

    P.S. Jimmy’s mom makes everyone sad. Even Jimmy.

    I can’t help but wonder about what happened to the others…

  31. spacklegeek Says:

    I noticed Math saying “fuck” and thought, Wow, has he said that before? Must really be a tense situation here.

    Because the word fuck hasn’t been tossed around a whole lot, at least by Math (to my memory), the use of it here tells me, as A Reader, that this isn’t any ordinary dealing with zombies, that things are Really Bad, and also that Math has at least some degree of positive feelings for April, just by seeing/reading that first panel.

    If Math swore right and left, that entire effect would be blown. It may’ve been achieved by using “hell” instead, but I like this. It gets my attention.

    The whole page reminds me of a Sam Spade film. (Bogart, with fangs. Whoo-boy!)

  32. vo Says:

    I think the problem with the “fuck” placement is that typically you don’t say “Get the fuck out.” in a very solid, smooth, even tone. It usually carries a bit of vocal inflection in it, and that’s how I read it the first time. But when I went back and actually thought about it, Math isn’t in an excited state. He’s very calm and collected. Reread it with a more monotone voice in your head and don’t over-emphasize any of the words in that statement, and it becomes a much more powerful, and much less unnecessary phrase. Well done, Bobby.

    PS Assuming Val hasn’t moved, She’s hanging out all over.

  33. Conor Says:

    Bobby, you should probably take the questions you keep getting asked and put them into an FAQ page.

  34. Melia Says:

    {“(I already mourned Jimmy, but Jimmy’s mom being eaten alive by her own son and then watching him get shot by Math…)”

    “ARGH! I hate comics. She didn’t watch him get shot by Math. He shot her first and then Jimmy. See in Panel 4 how he’s pointing his gun very low, towards the ground, towards Jimmy’s mom? Then we hear two BANGs! He shot her first, then pointed the gun at Jimmy and shot him”.}

    I can see the confusion of who gets shot when because both “BANGS” appear in panel 5; making it look like Jimmy got it twice in the head. Panel 4 is definitely from the mothers perspective and very dramatic. Putting a “BANG” in there would take away some of the drama and crowd the panel. 4 and 5 are the best panels. I love comic noir. Will the film be in both black & white and color?

  35. Lydia Says:

    All I can say is… I feel really terrible for Jimmy’s mother.

    First panel: are Math’s cheekbones always this pronounced? And April looks somewhat goofy.

    Second panel: Jimmy reminds me of a rabid hamster, but I guess he is supposed to be a rabid-something.

    The final two panels are done rather well, I think. Mood’s really good. Math’s figure seems a little stiff.

    Question: you mentioned before, Bobby, that zombies learned to keep their victims alive to feed on. But would a zombie-newbie like Jimmy know that?

  36. Melia Says:

    Cameron Diaz as April ;)

  37. Nico Says:

    Well, I think the Get the Fuck out. Was warrented.
    If anything would make him panic, it would be her getting aten or losing her mind.
    She is the one who has kept the humans here sane.
    Without her, the group would fall to infighting and be lost.

  38. OLLLie Says:

    k, when i first saw the comic i was like…whoa
    how is the mom still alive cause in the previous
    one itlooks alot like hes eating her brain

    did anyone else notice that in the previous comic?
    maybe someone already pointed that out but im
    too lazyto read through all the comments right now

  39. OLLLie Says:

    well, i decided to actually read the comments
    so just ignore everything i wrote…
    woops

  40. Bobby Crosby Says:

    “Question: you mentioned before, Bobby, that zombies learned to keep their victims alive to feed on. But would a zombie-newbie like Jimmy know that?”

    He wouldn’t, no, so he unfortunately injured his mom enough to kill her fairly quick. She would have died just seconds later if Math didn’t shoot her, and then she would have instantly been a zombie, of course.

    “Will the film be in both black & white and color?”

    All color.

    Conor: I’ve responded to the question about FAQs about a million times. Google the answer if you want.

  41. Charmee Says:

    I just have to say…. YES.

    XD

    SO MUCH YES!!!

  42. Quizboy Says:

    I started reading this comic yesterday, and I love it. I can’t wait for this thing to be filmed…

  43. Nara Says:

    wow. that was… harsh. and horrible. and evocative. i was left strangely still after reading this page, kinda like when youre with friends and someone says something that weirds people out in a not nice way or makes them sad by making a really insensitive joke about someone who died. its alot quieter than the name screaming Paige and the I Found Jimmy page, but I think this is the most emotionally charged page in the book so far. this was really well done, Bravo!
    one critique is I agree on the F word, it seemed forced in and a tad excessive, but I can kind of imagine him saying it to her through gritted teeth so in a way it also fits. nevermind.
    im still feeling wowed out.

  44. Nara Says:

    if you put the first “Bang” on the panel where he says “hes already dead” it might put across visually that hes shooting her (since hes looking at her as he says this. obviously the bang would have to go in the bottom corner or something so its clear he shoots her after saying this, and then the last panel has a single Bang.
    what say you?

  45. Northstar Says:

    I’m with theone who said it’s cool and scary at the same time. I love math’s hair there. Kinda reminds me of Raziel from LoK

  46. Northstar Says:

    in the silhouette that is! lol

  47. MobMentality Says:

    Panel 4 is a delight. The badass pose/lighting/”camera” angle paired with how sad math’s eyes look (maybe i’m misconstruing, i think he looks sad…) are just… Wow…

  48. Bobby Crosby Says:

    Part of his expression is certainly sadness, yeah, and I like that panel a lot too.

  49. redrob Says:

    wow…amazing. very touching scene. again, i dont know if its simply because i read so many comics, but i dont see where the confusion cmes from on some of these points. obviously he shot the mother first as shown by the gun angle, both of them had to die we all knew that. as for math saying fuck, its because he wants to be sure aril is understanding how important it is that she get out with none of her usual stubborness. he’s making it clear that she must do as he says no questions. This really kind of makes me feel sorry for math, i know he doesnt much like humans but he seems sad when he shoots jimmy’s mom, and of course when he apologizes to jimmy. Keep it up Bobby, this comic is great, absolutely cannot wait for the film.

  50. bobby brown Says:

    Comment deleted because it’s just quoting other people and it’s very confusing.

  51. Bobby Crosby Says:

    Bobby, I’m gonna have to delete your comments because all you’re doing is quoting other people without even using quotation marks and I can’t tell which words are yours or not. Just speak for yourself or properly quote and respond to people.

  52. Morgaur Says:

    It made me feel almost sick, and upset, and I absolutely loved it!

    I thought the dialoge and the artwork were both amazingly done, and it’s definitely the most emotionally evocative page done so far. Thanks guys, you do a great comic and I really enjoy reading it.

  53. Keroppi Says:

    Man, I can’t believe Jimmy didn’t save the last bullet for himself…. he seemed like such a bright kid….

  54. Marta Says:

    “Man, I can’t believe Jimmy didn’t save the last bullet for himself…. he seemed like such a bright kid….”

    Maybe he died instantly and for whatever reason didn’t see it coming?

  55. Jade Says:

    Okay, I’d like to give my two-cents despite Bobby already clearing things up.

    The two-kill thing… Whilst it’s not immediately apparent, I think the fact that he first killed Bobby’s mother is clear enough. He is pointing the gun at her to begin with; andum… Huge blood ‘sploshun? Bottom right corner. That’s not going to be from Bobby, even assuming the zombie’s blood would… Spurt… like that.

    “Get the fuck out”? Yeah, that’s very much worthwhile. It’s intended to shake April up enough to . Hell, it even made me stop for a second. It works; it really does. He’s got to do something which would have a HUGE impact on April if she witnessed it- and probably will do anyway- and I’m fairly sure he cares for her enough not to want that, even if she wasn’t as important as she is to holding everyone together. Someone said it reads like it’s forced; but I think it is. He wants his words to force her to leave.
    I must agree though, it’s not obvious that she’s left. Perhaps clarification of that will be shown in the next strip; perhaps him turning and her not here, or whatever he does, he does it alone.

    I wonder what happened to Murdo? Please be okay Murdo. I like you.

  56. Jade Says:

    Okay, I just wrote an entire post calling Jimmy, Bobby. >.>;; I apologise to both Bobby and Jimmy… It’s 7AM fer me, so I sorry. I dunno why I did that. xD;; At least I didn’t start like… Calling Murdo Owen or anything like that. >.>;

    I need more tea before I try to be coherant next time.

  57. Bobby Crosby Says:

    No problem, and we’ll see April to lead off Page 58.

  58. Nate Says:

    Wow. This has been building up and coming to a boil so nicely, and then this…
    So good man. I’m very impressed with the variety of strips you write. Good freaking work.

  59. ShinoTenshi Says:

    Just wanted to toss my few cents in, I agree with the conclusion that Math’s words were not emotional or panicked, they were very carefully said. You can look at it from a military standpoint, also.

    A Marine sargeant may curse every time he gives his men an order, such as “Get your _____ rifles, Marines!” However, when there is an immediate need to have them, it would simply be “Get your rifles!” The difference in normal speaking is the important factor. With Math it’s the opposite, but that change in how he speaks would make April pause, and take notice.

    Or it could be 5 AM and I could be babbling on about nothing. I absolutely love the way the pace moved from “cuddle” to full-on zombie attack panic, to the kind of deer-in-headlights, gunshot-stops-the-movie effect this page has.

    In my mind it’s one of those scenes where the zombies are everywhere and groaning and there’s guns going off…but then as Math pulls the trigger, everything is silent but the gunshot ringing out, and the casings take an eternity to fall. And then instantly snap back into Math’s soon-to-come killing frenzy.

    Kudos to pulling off movie effects in comic form. I’ve noticed that Last Blood is exceptionally good at that, in fact.

  60. Ryah Says:

    Math in the first panel for the win!

    His hairstyle looks a bit wonky to me though in the second panel- like longer and better groomed than the situation would have it.

    I LOVE the last panel! It’s perfect for the big silver screen, with all its drama and artisticness.

  61. knight who says NI! Says:

    well its jimmy so he deserves 2 shots or 1 from a shotgun maybe…

  62. Christine Says:

    Love the last panel…and the second one….

  63. Tegu Says:

    THIS IS THE BEST PAGE SO FAR!

  64. ModdyPride Says:

    That was… very sad. But good.

  65. Trilbydude Says:

    WHY DID SHE LET HIM EAT HER!?????

  66. Lew Says:

    Perfect page – one of your best till now!!

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