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If Sullivan Davis was good at basketball, I don’t think it would be a good idea for the whole thing to be resolved with a game of basketball (bad joke, I know)
Who’s that pretty zombie-lady in the last panel? A girl we should know, or just a random zombie?
That’d be Val, I’m 99% sure. It did throw me off too though, at first I thought that it was some random zombie that didn’t get offed. Then I saw the teeth and realized it was Val doing the feeding she was running to. I guess something happened in Guadalcanal involving vamps
Just outta curiosity, WHEN did Val get turned into a vamp??? Last I saw, she was in bed with Math, then the fight broke out. Did I miss a whole pile of updates or something?? – forget it.. I just looked back, and got April and Val mixed up.. Val sure LOOKS like April in that last panel.. none of the sleek features that we’ve come to know her by…
Those records don’t seem that daunting to have survived since the thirties.
But I guess Sullivan Davis was the biggest thing to come out of South Dakota state basketball since . . . well I’ve never heard of ANYTHING coming out of south dakota. . .
The expression on Val’s face makes me think that she overheard that Aprils grandfather is Sully, and probably knows he’s the TFZ. It also leads me to think she has some feelings for the ol’ reanimator.
Wooo!! Nice work on Val’s face. Question: so if TFZ is the teacher’s(can’t remember her name right now) grandfather, it means that he was a vampire before, so when does he became so? During WWII? I don’t recall that vampire can have children anyway… And another question: what happens if a vampire get bitten by a zombie, in the low probability that a zombie can achieve such an act on a “superhuman” vampire?
Impressive grasp of history, Bobby. The Battle of Guadalcanal was fought in the Solomon Islands (i.e., the “Pacific Theater”) 65 years ago, which is also the amount of time it takes to become a vamp zombie. Great attention to detail, my man.
What decade does the story take place? If Math thought April’s grandfather died in the tornado, then it means he would be alive if he didn’t die in the war, so I guess the story must take place, like, in the 50s or something?
April looks cute in the 5th panel
Mmm. Miss Val looks as though she’s the result of a human and an alien, from Alien, doing the forbidden lambada (dude, look at that MOUTH! What the hell?!)…
And not much else to say, other than,
“wow! I wonder what’ll happen next!”
Jeez, she looks like that because she just heard the words “Sullivan Davis” and is shocked. He can already hypothesize that she turned Math for his booty, maybe she did the same to Sullivan. She probably just put two and two together.
“Those records donâ€™t seem that daunting to have survived since the thirties.”
Assuming it’s a HS (been a while since they said and too lazy to check), those records are all impressive enough to have held. Barring a 7 foot center, 29 boards would hold the record for most high schools. 15 assists is impressive too since HS games are shorter, lower scoring, and a lot less assist oriented. The points is feasable as well. Pretty sure all 3 would be records at my HS, and I went to a decent sized school.
“The expression on Valâ€™s face makes me think that she overheard that Aprils grandfather is Sully.”
I’ve said all this several times before in the comments, but anyway, Sullivan Davis was born a human, went to this high school, got some girl pregnant in like 1941 probably, went off to war, was turned into a vampire, the normal human baby he produced was April’s father, born in ’42, and then he fathered April in his 40s. Pretty simple.
I just started to read I Am Legend… I haven’t read this since I was ten, and man, it’s so much better when you know the feelings of despair and lust that Robert is feeling.
Back then, it was sort of like, “Hey mommy, what’s a loin?”
Could you imagine is MM didn’t die because he’s immune, then later everyone else does, and he’s quite literally the last man, but he’s all stumps?
Is it just me, or does it look like Val is eating the flesh instead of drinking the blood? Was she too late, and did she go zombie-crazy just before she was able to get some, or is it just an effect of her obviously frantic biting of the humans before they die.
“Could you imagine is MM didnâ€™t die because heâ€™s immune, then later everyone else does, and heâ€™s quite literally the last man, but heâ€™s all stumps?
Ok. Obivously, Val knows Sully. Apparently, Sully wasn’t happy about being a big bad critter of the night, so he found out about the whole Europe Incident and decided to use that methodology to wreak havoc and take his revenge on the vampires. April’s last name is Davis. Val’s hair is bleached when she drinks blood. I willing to bet Math knows about Val and Sully. The “Oh Shit” face Val pulls is too much more than just “I caused this.”
First time commenting. Yay! I really enjoy this comic a lot. Keep up the good work. ^^. And for the last panel…Val seemed to be really startled. Mayhaps she was so shocked that she jolted her head up, forgetting to take her vamp teeth out of the flesh and tore it up with her. =D That’s my two cents.
“Steals and Blocks STILL werenâ€™t around back then.”
#1 — Obviously it makes no difference for the story, so who cares. #2 — They weren’t officially recorded as stats in the NBA until the early ’70s, but they’re pretty obvious things and it’s very possible that at least one high school kept stats on them in the ’30s. Steals and blocks were obviously around back then, since they obviously happened back then — they simply weren’t widely recorded as official stats. I 100% guarantee you that the following two lines of dialogue were uttered by hundreds, if not thousands, of people in the mid ’30s — “I blocked his shot” and “I stole the ball.” It’s nowhere near out of the realm of possibility that someone would decide to record those stats back then. It’s not like it was some revolutionary thought in the early ’70s for the NBA to “invent” these two stats. They’re about as obvious as it gets, even more obvious than rebounds are. If I had $1 million in the bank right now, I’d comfortably bet someone $500,000 that at least one high school in the ’30s recorded blocks and steals.
“Mayhaps she was so shocked that she jolted her head up, forgetting to take her vamp teeth out of the flesh and tore it up with her.”
Hey, I like that.
“And Murdo in panel 5?”
You’re all screwed up today!Â (That’s Math, not Murdo.)
Who cares if it’s the one high school? All I’m saying is it’s plausible and it’s about a meaningless thing to the story obviously. And why are you asking for proof when I obviously don’t have any? If I had a million dollars I’m sure I could find proof for it, though. It’s just common sense.
“Defend your argument, or say it doesnâ€™t matter for the story. Donâ€™t do both god.”
Why the fuck not? I explained how it’s obviously possible that a high school in the ’30s recorded these obvious stats and I also of course mentioned that it doesn’t affect the story in any conceivable way if blocks and steals were really recorded in the ’30s or not. Why should I not do both of those things?
Yeah. I thought it was a zombie at first, but then when I saw the teeth, I realized it was Val’s horribly blank and shocked expression. I just never expected to see Val being surprised by something. Which just means you’ve done a good job showing how very shocking a revelation she’s just had. Very good. Bravo.
“All Iâ€™m saying is itâ€™s plausible and itâ€™s about a meaningless thing to the story obviously. And why are you asking for proof when I obviously donâ€™t have any? If I had a million dollars Iâ€™m sure I could find proof for it, though. Itâ€™s just common sense.”
As long as by common sense you mean an unsupported opinion based on no evidence. I don’t know if those things were in use in the 30s but they are clearly conceptual and they do have to be invented, if they weren’t in common usage until the 1970s it is entirely possible they would have been meaningless in the 30s. No matter how ‘obvious’ they are to you somebody had to invent the concept just like any other, and before somebody invented it it wasn’t at all obvious (like years, or crime, or otherness, or any other ‘obvious’ idea). And of course it matters, because it breaks the stories sense of reality.
“As long as by common sense you mean an unsupported opinion based on no evidence.”
What the heck? Have you ever seen a game of basketball? It’s just common sense that it’s very possible that someone could have kept track of these stats in the ’30s and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if just a couple hours of Google searching could prove that. If you’ve never seen a game of basketball, please search on YouTube and find videos of steals and of blocks and then tell me that it wouldn’t be obvious that those are two things that should be kept track of and that their names even are obvious.
“I donâ€™t know if those things were in use in the 30s but they are clearly conceptual and they do have to be invented, if they werenâ€™t in common usage until the 1970s it is entirely possible they would have been meaningless in the 30s.”
They were in common usage before the ’70s — they simply didn’t become official NBA stats until the ’70s. I’m not sure when they were first commonly used. Maybe the ’60s, maybe the ’30s. I 100% guarantee you that there are many newspaper articles from the ’30s that include the lines “he stole the ball” and “he blocked the shot.” Feel free to search for them, if you’d like. Again, they’re obvious, and all it takes is common sense to see that.
That was eight years before the NBA started officially recording steals. Again, it’s obvious.
“No matter how â€˜obviousâ€™ they are to you somebody had to invent the concept just like any other, and before somebody invented it it wasnâ€™t at all obvious (like years, or crime, or otherness, or any other â€˜obviousâ€™ idea).”
No idea what you’re talking about. Invent what? Once again, when someone, um, STEALS the ball, it just makes sense to call that a STEAL and that it might just be an important thing to take note of. Same for when someone BLOCKS a shot.
“And of course it matters, because it breaks the stories sense of reality.”
How in the world would it conceivably do that? That’s just plain laughable. When it’s about something as totally meaningless as a couple basketball stats (keep in mind that this comic is not about basketball), it doesn’t break any sense of reality, ESPECIALLY when at the very most MAYBE 0.3 percent of the readers would know that steals and blocks weren’t commonly recorded back then. That’s one out of every 333 readers, at the most. Probably more like one out of every 1,000 readers. I used to be a HUGE basketball fan and I still know more about the game than the vast majority of people, and I didn’t even think about the issue of if blocks and steals were recorded back then while writing it. Didn’t even cross my mind. Anyway, for the one out of every 1,000 readers who realize that it seems unlikely that those stats were recorded back then, there’s absolutely no reason for that to break the sense of reality for them either, since, once again, it’s definitely plausible, and, once again, who the fuck cares? It’s about a basketball stat on the wall that we see for one panel in a comic that is about vampires protecting the last surviving humans from zombies. If the comic was about basketball players beating basketball players in a game of basketball, THEN it might just SLIGHTLY hurt the sense of reality.
Yeah, I’m typically not stirred enough by reading comments to bother posting one of my own, but christ, guys. It’s a minute little detail that’s barely worth mentioning. If nitpicky little inaccuracies like that can cause you this much anguish, then I suggest you avoid sitting down and taking a good hard look at the majority of fictional entertainment in the world. And before you start talking about the “feeling of reality” can we consider the flying vampires and millions of zombies? Whether or not the basketball stats are accurate on a single page of a fictional comic is so insignificant it’s almost unbelievable that it was brought up in the first place. Calling a writer up to defend every single little detail of his story is not only pointless, it’s just general dickassery.
“Dickassery.” Perfect word for it. Sometimes I wonder why Bobby lets himself get wound up with these foolish comments, but I agree with the overall sentiment. Such a pointless detail some many of you are harping on. Grow up and employ suspension of disbelief, for Chr*st’s sake. Enjoy the comic and stop nitpicking unless you are going to actually contribute (i.e., write or pencil) the story. I noticed no one (besides myself) gave Bobby props for knowing details about a small-but-historically significant WWII battle and employing them in the story-line. If we are to criticize whether or not Bobby is an accurate historian (not that I’m implying he ever purported to be), that’d be a more relevant data point to start from, doncha think?
My general thought is the complainers can go be toxic somewhere else. Just not here.
Minor spoiler for something that may never take place: The Battle of Guadalcanal is basically Act III of the prequel film/graphic novel which focuses on The First Zombie’s origin. Hopefully that will be produced one day, but most likely we’ll need a ton more of you to get your local comic shops to order “Last Blood” in order for that to happen. Call ‘em up right now. “Last Blood #3″ is in the current issue of PREVIEWS (Diamond’s catalog).
well, since noone ever has dared to violently assume things, well, let’s see if I am completly wrong.
1. Val knows at least the name of TFZ, but it is unsure if she knows that he is TFZ
2. main sexbomb math has not flinched.
3. math is, in terms of being a vampire, younger then val.
4. Math was during ww2 in europe, while TFZ was somewhere else
Now, lets start the assumptioning:
1. Vals face. Now, some people might say that it looks surprised, but I say it looks more like “OOOOOOOOOh shit!”. which leads to the interesting conclusion, what does she know that the main man does not know.
2. she knows of the connection who TFZ is. I do not really know if it was told in the story, but if Val, our tomgirl, knows something that Math does not know, well then there has to be a very big secret.
3. the least possible assumption that would strike my head would be that val, while in her teenage years, was said student from from the highschool, which TFZ got pregnant. (i do not think of something as simple as pearl-harbour romances. ) she had the baby, abandoned it as she became a vampire, and now has to realize that that cute girl is her grandchild. wow, cute! and, it would almost certainly explain the oh shit face.
Now, if we bend our minds some more, we have established the fact that
“the least possible assumption that would strike my head would be that val, while in her teenage years, was said student from from the highschool”
This page revealed that Math and Val had sex over 100 years ago.
“Math was during ww2 in europe, while TFZ was somewhere else
Now, lets start the assumptioning”
Well we already know that Math killed Hitler, so he was in Europe for some period of time at least, but the reason he asks is because he’s trying to figure out if Sullivan Davis is The First Zombie, and he knows that The First Zombie was an American soldier who came out of the Pacific Ocean.
Val there seems to realize who she’s related to (maybe)
BTW it can now officially be said that your comic has given someone nightmares! LOL I Kept going back to the same Last Blood related nightmare last night every time I woke up… however I’m not discouraged from reading the comic. Far from it. ^_^
So Sullivan Davis was not a vampire for very long then, if he fathered a child in the 1940′s, went to war, got turned into a vamp somewhere along that way, and then trapped himself shortly after to turn into TFZ half a century later.
Which means whoever turned him had to be old enough and knowledgeable enough in the ways of vampires to tell him what would happen if he stopped eating (which then became the basis around his plan of revenge) because I dont think thats something vampires would just know, they’d know instinctively to NOT starve themselves because it hurts, but they would not know that if they starve themselves for 60 something years they turn into a different kind of monster. someone who had seen the first accidental zombie incident would have known about that and probably told Sullivan. Which makes that myserious person (most likely the vampire that turned Sulli) pretty darn OLD.
Nara: We learn more about that on Page 66. They actually wouldn’t have to be very old, since the legend of The First Zombie has been passed down for centuries among vampires, although many of the younger ones didn’t believe it, until the past month, of course.
Exactly. Seriously, basketball was invented in 1891…just because the NBA decided to start recording a certain stat in the 70s doesn’t mean that no one else did before that…leave it alone. It is a zombie/vampire comic. A fabulous zombie/vampire comic! I love it!
So, we have this one circumstance, that the knowledge about the first zombie incident (if TFZ, the grandfather, was trapped in his coffin around 1940, then there have to have been previous incidents, about which we do not know. So, I would suggest to call the basis, the absolute first zombie, the original zombie, TOZ) was public (in vampiric circles) knowledge, then it must have been a pretty boogey-man story to tell the newborn vampires. If you do not feed regularely, you will end up as a zombie.
So, if I would be a vampire, and I would turn a human into a vampire…. that does not particularely like it….. and furthermore refuses to eat…..
I would be put into a serious moral crisis. either, allow him to continue, sweettalk him, and hope that I would be able to convince him to feed of the living, or I would be forced to destroy him.
I would, however, not lock him in a coffin and throw him overboard, hoping that the sea would destroy him, or that the story would turn out to be untrue, and that none of the other vampires, like alison payne, ever knows of what I have done…..
And if said child of mine would turn up…. near a place where he used to hang out, and where his denizens are…….Then I would make this kind of “OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh SHIT” face.
Just a wild guess….. you can delete it, but I want an email if I have guessed a major spoiler….
Basically nothing involving TFZ is something I’d hide at this point — I’ve spoiled tons. There are other major things that I won’t spoil, though. You didn’t guess anything anyway.
“So, I would suggest to call the basis, the absolute first zombie, the original zombie, TOZ”
That doesn’t work. They’re all just First Zombies, or Original Zombies, and there’s no telling how many there have been throughout history. Any vampire who doesn’t drink blood for 65 years becomes a First/Original Zombie. Devian’s parents call them schaemiacs, as you’ll learn on Page 66.
“then it must have been a pretty boogey-man story to tell the newborn vampires. If you do not feed regularely, you will end up as a zombie.”
Devian talks about this on Page 66.
“I would, however, not lock him in a coffin and throw him overboard”
No one did this. I think I’ve said it before a few times, but if I haven’t, minor spoiler: The First Zombie chose to be buried at sea of his own free will, for several specific reasons, but mostly to get revenge on all the vampires (he’ll tell you why later, and it’s what the prequel story about his origin will be all about).
“And if said child of mine would turn up”
Minor spoiler: Val is not TFZ’s mother. She does, however, know him well, and she has good reason to believe that this is all her fault, which is why she makes the “OH SHIT” face.
I’m thinking that without a doubt, Val turned TFZ into a vampire, for one reason or another. TFZ is absolutely furious, as he can’t go back to his normal life with the woman he loves/got pregnant. Sometime in his short time as a vampire, he hears the story of how a vamp turns into a zombie. He hates what hes become, so he gets himself tossed into the ocean to sit for 65 years, so that he can come out and get his revenge on those that turned him into something he hates
Answer my fucking questions, asshole. Tell me right now why you think I shouldn’t defend my argument and also say that it doesn’t matter for the story, and why you feel so very strongly about this.
“If my point is missed, just because something is obvious, doesnâ€™t mean it is recorded.”
Huh? It’s a fictional fucking story! All that matters is if there’s a reasonable CHANCE that it was recorded, which there definitely is in this case, but who gives a shit when there’s also VAMPIRES AND ZOMBIES in this world, and you’re whining about how steals and blocks weren’t commonly recorded back then and acting like a fucking asshole about it towards me? Kill yourself. Your next post will be your last unless you apologize and answer all my questions.
Holy Crap, I guessed a plot point way back when. By accident.
I distinctly remember saying at some point that it would be cool to have a whole room full of zombies stop in the middle of whatever they were doing, then en masse turn to look at some big trophy case on the wall where TFZ’s human name is still visibly displayed in a place of honor…
And how the writer said something like ‘I like that image…’
Teehee! Cool to see it take place even if I didn’t get the image *exactly* right.
The look on Val’s face is nice too. That look and the comments confirm my longheld suspicion – she really is a complete bitch. Most likely TFZ knows she is in the school. He knew she’d have to show up evenually if this town held the last humans on the planet.
He WANTS her to know what’s coming and why. The vampires in general, but her especially.
Still not sure why the zombies attacked the school the way they did. If TFZ didn’t send them in to kill the humans (stated by author) and they didn’t seem to be homing in on he vampires, then I am puzzled why they got sent in.
Maybe TFZ just wanted his ‘lucky jersey’ back?
Debate over basketball statistic keeping is silly. Small towns love when a local boy (or girl, but back then they were more sexist) makes it really big. They can and will recount every story about the person in question that they can recall for decades.
They might not have posted the questionable statistics at the time they took place, but if the hometown boy dies as a big war hero and/or the stats eventually get kept *and* all the stories agree as to particulars they could legitimately have posted the numbers months or even years after the fact.
Small towns are weird like that. Especially if the player in question goes on to make it big at state and/or professional player levels. Our teacher friend can probably recite her grandfather’s history chapter and verse for HOURS if she wants to.
“Still not sure why the zombies attacked the school the way they did.”
Minor spoiler: Their mission was to kidnap Val in order to stop Val from killing herself, but Jimmy’s warning shots thwarted their attempt to get anywhere near Val in time.
Also, about basketball records: There’s always at least the chance, even in the 1930s, that some of their games were filmed and that they could count up any stats they want from that footage years later. Even if just one game per year was filmed (maybe they got to the state championship each year and it was filmed), Sullivan could have had incredible stats for those games which would still be records today.
Sweet that backstory’s coming soon gotta love that. These are exciting times we live in!!
Also as far as the stats arguement goes, .OPS is now popular in baseball, while .avg and slugging were used before and .OPS wasn’t, it can be calculated for anybody from throughout history though it’s just that no one took the time back then. It doesn’t mean that just b/c we didn’t calculate Babe’s ops while he played we can’t go back and call him the overall ops stud now though.
There’s a new fielding stat being popularized, that, if you read through old articles on the games can be figured out for the most part as well.
So yes, just b/c a stat wasn’t official, doesn’t mean there weren’t stat heads who cared about these things way back when.
“Finally, I donâ€™t care if you ban me from commenting. Do you really think thatâ€™s a solid threat?”
Obviously you don’t care about being banned and why would you assume I think it’s a solid threat? You very stupidly and disgustingly said “Iâ€™m so banned” earlier after very stupidly and pointlessly choosing to REPEAT your “they didn’t have steals and blocks back then” comment, as if it’s somehow important to any fucking thing at all and as if you thought I for some reason should have responded to it instantly before. You’re one of these fucking morons who think I ban people simply for disagreeing with me, and I should have banned you simply for espousing that view with your “I’m so banned” comment, knowing that after that it was pretty much guaranteed that you’d respond with a ton of stupid lying shit as you did.
“Iâ€™m not apologizing when you canâ€™t even admit fault about such a minor detail.”
WHERE THE FUCK DID I NOT ADMIT FAULT? I admitted fault about a billion times. If I wasn’t admitting fault, I would have said, “No, steals and blocks were commonly recorded back then.” Instead I’ve said that they weren’t commonly recorded, but that there’s at least a chance that at least one school did record them (or get them by some other means, like film footage) and that that’s definitely good enough for me on such a pointless thing as this. If I wasn’t admitting fault, why the fuck would I keep saying how it’s pointless to the story??? Why would I say anything other than “No, steals and blocks were recorded in the ’30s”??? If there was no chance whatsoever that any school would have recorded those stats, then I’d probably re-do the page and remove it. But there definitely is a chance, as I’ve proven in a million ways and is just plain common sense for anyone with a brain, so what the FUCK is your fucking problem, you fucking piece of shit moron? Again, kill yourself. And you still didn’t answer my fucking questions about what the fuck your problem is with defending something and also saying that it doesn’t matter.
Also, it’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility, as Brellchild pointed out, that for a big war hero like this guy, someone who they probably re-named the town after when he got the Congressional Medal of Honor posthumously, that they might take an educated guess based on eyewitness accounts for how many blocks and steals he might have had in a game and mark those down as records, if it seemed likely that he held them, even if they weren’t recorded or if the games weren’t filmed.Â When they start recording steals and blocks in the ’70s like everyone else and they KNOW that Sullivan would have held these records, are they really gonna mark down Freddy Smith’s four steals and Harold Davis’s three blocks as the school records?Â I don’t think so.Â I think they’d take a solid guess on what Sullivan’s records would have been and use those.Â And that’s of course the third best case scenario behind #1 of actually recording them at the time and #2 of having film of his games, both of which are at least possible.
I’m loving the comic Bobby, but I’ve got to say, possibly the best thing you’ve written is (to paraphrase) “you’re bitching about whether or not its accurate that they kept these stats when there’s zombies and vampires in the world?” lol brilliant
Anyways, as a question about Vampires in general, are you going with the whole thing that if a vampire is killed, the ones that he/she sired are killed as well? Or he just wants Val alive so she can suffer? Maybe he wants to keep her alive for 64 years with no blood then kill her right before she turns?
Bobby, don’t get worked up about some idiot sitting at home in his mom’s basement, worried about basketball stats when zombies are about to destroy the human race. Your comic is awesome and the artwork is fantastic.
Add me to the list of people who are not concerned whether or not steals and blocks were stats kept back then. I agree that somewhere along the way the odds of at least a handfull of schools (especially since basketball was so huge with midwestern schools at the time) keeping those stats are fairly decent.
I think I asked this a few weeks ago, but cannot find it so I have to ask again. How goes the work with the film version? Any progess?
I would argue in agreement with Chapin, and if I only had $500,000 to my name, I would take you on that bet. In the 1930′s, basketball as a whole simply wasn’t popular enough that people would’ve even considered keeping stats in general, much less steals and blocks. It was a virtually unknown sport in highschools, and even those that did have teams were part of conferences that set the overall rules for which stats to track. It wasn’t until the 1950s that people started to even consider basketball a sport worth of anyone’s attention. In fact, the very CONCEPT of keeping basketball stats didn’t come about until mid 1948 when the NBA was founded. I would quite comfortably bet every dime I have that you will never find a single basketball “record” showing steals or blocks in 1930.
That being said, I ALSO agree with Bobby in that it holds absolutely NO bearing on the story. It something called “artistic license” where the artist used it to make a simple point that the guy was athletic (as opposed to being on the chess team) and to give Math a reason to mention the guy’s name, thus moving the plot forward. Continuing to nitpick about the historical accuracy of a comic book wherein zombies and vampires fight it out… I mean, do I really need to finish?
“Sounds more like its to rile you up man. And so far, heâ€™s succeeding. Chill dude.”
If anyone ever tells me to chill again, especially someone with a link to something to do with Nebraska in their name, they’ll be banned.
“I would argue in agreement with Chapin, and if I only had $500,000 to my name, I would take you on that bet.”
And you would definitely lose.Â I’m the kind of person who keeps crazy detailed stats on made up silly games that only I play, and I 100% guarantee you that at least one scorekeeper kid in the ’30s liked basketball enough to keep stats on absolutely everything possible, obviously including steals and blocks, along with tons of other crazy stats that still aren’t kept track of in the NBA.
WOW. ….so TFZ is wiping out pretty much the whole of humanity to avenge himself on the vampires for causing him to be seperated from humanity in the first place. this guy is NUTS. He was sooo angry to be seperated from his family he was willing to sacrifce said family in order to get revenge?? clearly he has impaired logic. I mean hes brilliant as a tactitian, but logically if they were THAT important to him would he really have endangered his family like this for revenge? really, when you step back and look at the big picture, this guy is Evvvviiillllll
nara,just back off me girl, back off.
First of all, TFZ is not evil. he is merely a being like you and me, who has been kicked around.
wtf??? great tactican? wtf? he simply has to follow the idea out of the zombie movies.
insert number of zombies into area. if number of zombies = arriving unsuspecting and unprepared (play: allways aim for the head.wav) guys,then number of zombies = number of guys + number of zombies
now, with that out of the way, sorry for not having made myself clear. I did not think of val as tfz’s mother. I thought of her as the vampire that made tfz a vampire, which was after all, aproxximately right.
Now, as for the whole evil part:
Val just reminds me too much of that nurse in the pearl-harbour movie. I imagine her, kneeling over the wounded soldier, and as an act of mercy, and because she seems to have the discipline of a horny cat, she embraces him /makes him a vampire. possibly, because she seems pretty unexperienced, she forgot to tell him what she did, or how exactly it worked. well, TFZ is pretty cool with that, but he has that girl in highschool he has gotten pregnant. But, since he suffers from none of the usual side-effects, it seems ok and save, so, on vacation, or on a visit, TFZ and that girl meet. The son is at the grandparents, so the two can enjoy the sun and a few hours of being alone time. now, the incident happens:
first place would be TFZ accidentially sucking his girl dry. Or, otherwise revealing himself to her. The girl is scared /dead/does not want anything to do with him, so he has to leave town.
second place: val, on her munchies, sees the girl, and sucks her dry.
now, whatever has happened, it basically is an accident. He has lot his family, is torn up from war, and perhaps there is a big bad vampire knocking on his door asking him to join the club. so, he returns to the sea, and simply gets drowned in the ocean. Val discovers that he is gone missing, and thinks that her progeny /child/vampirebaby has committed suicide,or maybe even knows of the fact that her boy is being drowned in the sea, but she cannot bring him back up to surface without raising too much suspicion.
Bobby, if that is the case, please enter a flashback scene where the young val finds the suicide note of TFZ, and cries tears of sorrow, because she could not go back to the other vampires and tell, or it would have been clear that she had made a new vampire without permission, but she has kind of drowned that whole fact into manmeat and whiskey.
Now, in the present day, it all comes together. val discovers that not only did her hunny live here, his granddaughter is there too, and they are the last bastion of the civilised world.
However, I think of TFZ not as an evil zombie, but more as a soldier who wants to return to his family, with all possible means. He simply wants to be reunited with the flesh of his loins that he has believed dead for so long. And, he wants to take revenge at the vampirs who sired / made him vampire without permission. OOh, and who wants to tell his last living granddaughter his side of the story.
That would be my dream.
Please. bobby, pretty pretty please with a snowcone on top. If you write a backstory of TFZ / mister Sullivan Davis, do not fall into the mindless villan scheme. Give him credebility, and a heart.
But I think you already considered that
Now, on that whole baseball-steal thing. It does not matter. at all. because it is you who enjoy this fabulous story for free, and bobby who writes his brain out on the stroyline for us. I bet, if Bobby would really b mean, he could integrate a subplot that MM was exactly that kid which had the stats collected, or collected the radio-reports from that games, and as he seems like the type of guy to me that would do such, would possibly create this hall of fame solemly for the point of prooving that he had the stats. I bet you he wood. OOh, nice combination by the way, TFZ as MM’s hero.
wel, but I do not want you to talk into your story, since you are from the land of the free, that has defined the words nerd and sports-geek. I think that you can write whatever you goddamn well want, because you produce the comic, and the storyline. Be proud of yourself.
Baltazaar, who allways roots for the zombies
(if you need anyone who should play TFZ, or the young TFZ, I would do it free for charge. except that I am blonde, and have slightly curly hair. )
“He was sooo angry to be seperated from his family he was willing to sacrifce said family in order to get revenge??”
No no no, I never said that at all and that’s not the case. His motivation has almost nothing to do with his family. I think someone guessed that, along with many other guesses, and I said that that person had some things right and some things wrong or whatever. I was basically only confirming that Val turned him into a vampire.
“Bobby, if that is the case . . .”
Baltazaar, rest assured that nothing that you’ve guessed is the case whatsoever in any way. It’s all way off and I can barely even understand it. And to repeat, his family back home plays almost no role in why he chose to let himself be buried at sea. There were many other huge reasons for why he did that, and the main catalyst of it has to do with what happens in battle.
“he could integrate a subplot that MM was exactly that kid which had the stats collected”
Principal Howard is quite a bit younger than 80. Wasn’t around back then.
“TFZ as MMâ€™s hero”
TFZ is everyone in that town’s hero basically, and who cares who MM’s hero is? He’s just an asshole jerk.
I remember that game back in ’35 when Sully got the blocks and steals records. But he had 12 steals and 10 blocks, not like it says on the board. Man, that school has some sloppy record keepers. Sully’s gonna be pissed when he sees that.
“I did not make that post with the intention to piss you off.”
I realize that. I think it should be fairly obvious from all of the many discussions in the comments here, though, that it disgusts me when someone tells me to chill out or calm down. I’m perfectly calm and simply telling fucking morons that they’re fucking morons when they act like fucking morons, and people who tell me to chill out and not do such things piss me off more than the fucking morons themselves.
Probably already got it, or Val is storing it for them in bottles or whatever. Remember earlier in the story when Math was drinking blood from a bottle (“red gatorade”)? He also might have just said that to Murdo to deflect some of the attention from Val and make it seem more normal, to avoid Murdo going after Val.