Page 70: On the Move
Tuesday, August 21st, 2007Owen and I recently did an interview for the Slice of SciFi podcast/XM Radio show and it’s now up on their site. The interview starts at 31:00 and runs for 16 minutes. Some choice quotes:
Owen: “That was a good spoiler — it was like a tease. Perfect.”
Bobby: “This is the first time I’ve heard Owen’s beautiful voice.”
Owen (about our comments section): “I think it’s super funny. The comments are almost better than the comic itself some days.”
(That last quote definitely rings true for today’s page!)Â
August 21st, 2007 at 4:48 pm
lawlercakes
August 21st, 2007 at 5:05 pm
It was great chatting with you guys! I hope to be talking with you again in the future, talking about Last Blood, the movie!
August 21st, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Thanks, Brian! I look forward to it!
August 21st, 2007 at 5:26 pm
April sure cries a lot.
Honestly, put them up against a tiny little thing like the bloody, grisly end of the human race and the death of every person they care about (who hasn’t already been brutally dismembered) and some women just fall apart….
I want to hug her.
August 21st, 2007 at 5:41 pm
O_o I’m thinking vampire boy is making a move on her with some unknown obscure vampiric pickup line, similar to the two lesbian vampires telling each other that they’d see them next month… >.
August 21st, 2007 at 6:46 pm
He’s going to tell her that she’s the decendant of TFZ and that’s just going to open up a whole new can of psychological damage in her mind. Math really needs to learn how to break things easier to people.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:24 pm
This comic is ridiculously awesome. Zombies and Vampires? Nice.
August 21st, 2007 at 7:43 pm
I’m thinking vampire boy is making a move on her with some unknown obscure vampiric pickup line
LOL! Man, now I want to use this as a pickup line! “I’m going to tell you how you’ll save us all… but first I need you to take off your pants.”
August 21st, 2007 at 7:52 pm
But the comments ARE almost as good as the comics! It just makes me read more!
August 21st, 2007 at 10:23 pm
There’s an error on the first line.. you should change “his” to “their”, otherwise you’re implying that all zombies are male.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Damn Vo, you owned me (this is as to the comments on the page before this).
I love this page. But I can honestly say that by now, I have grown fond of the dog. I don’t care about FZ anymore.
Just the dog.
And is it just me, or in the first panel, did Owen deliberately make April look like she was bustin’ a zombie move from Thriller?
-Neca
August 21st, 2007 at 10:29 pm
“There’s an error on the first line.. you should change ‘his’ to ‘their’ . . .”
That’s not an error. That’s just how Math talks, and so do millions of other people. And “their” would be much more of an “error,” in my opinion. It’s an age old debate about if “his” is acceptable for this type of sentence with referring to singular things like “every single zombie.” I’m not sure what is more accepted now or if it’s 50/50 or what, but many people, especially older people (and the comic has already shown that Math is at least 120 or so, since he had sex with Val over a century ago), commonly use “his” in this situation.
“otherwise you’re implying that all zombies are male.”
I’m not implying anything — it’s dialogue.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Not to argue over semantics, but it is relevant. Dialogue implies everything in a story, and in this medium it’s pretty much implying everything. Honestly, I don’t think Math’s age would be too relevant in arguing against the change. His speech seems to be the same as April or anyone else’s who isn’t over a century old, so his language must have adapted over time.
This is just a peeve of mine, acting as though the language doesn’t matter. Someone was just trying to point something out to you, a potential error. Using his instead strikes me as very sexist- but that may me what you’re trying to convey with Math for all I know. If that’s the case, then kudos. Keep it as is.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:26 pm
“Dialogue implies everything in a story, and in this medium it’s pretty much implying everything.”
Huh? He said that I personally was implying that all zombies are male. My point was that MATHESON is implying it (even though he’s not implying it), not ME.
“Honestly, I don’t think Math’s age would be too relevant in arguing against the change.”
There’s absolutely no need to “argue against the change.” It would be silly and wrong to change it, especially to “their.” The entire sentence would have to be changed and I considered several alternatives and this was the best one and the one most true to the character.
“This is just a peeve of mine, acting as though the language doesn’t matter.”
I’m most definitely not acting like the language doesn’t matter. I’m saying that people make “mistakes” in dialogue and this isn’t even a mistake. I’m getting really tired of people complaining about grammatical errors in dialogue, as if everyone is supposed to speak perfectly in conversation. It happens in the “Marry Me” comments CONSTANTLY and it’s so stupid.
“Someone was just trying to point something out to you, a potential error.”
Huh? No, he did not say it was a potential error — he said “There’s an error on the first line” and then he said I “should change” something to something else (something even more “incorrect”).
“Using his instead strikes me as very sexist- but that may me what you’re trying to convey with Math for all I know. If that’s the case, then kudos.”
Uh, kudos to me, then, because that’s obviously what I’m doing.
“Keep it as is.”
So nice to have your permission.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:43 am
Ooooh, he has a *plan*… :’D
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 am
“every single zombie”: ‘zombie’ is singular, therefore ‘their’, a plural form, would be incorrect. ‘His’, used in this case as neutral plural is the only correct word to use in this case.
Had Bobby written ‘All the zombies’, ‘his’ would have been incorrect and ‘their’ correct.
We saw this is school, people, no messing with the master.
Still, as long as it conveyes the message, I don’t think any of us has any business with how the dialogue is written… especially no paranoid feminists ;P
Oh, and bobby, this is another great page, my compliments to the both of you! I can’t wait to see how things go from here…
~the HummingBird - here one moment, gone the next
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 am
The “his” isn’t incorrect, it’s just not what a fussy English teacher would want you to put (that would be “his or her”). However, if I’m seeing this right, it’s a conversation not an essay so any ‘error’ in speech can be chalked up to informal speaking.
Is Math telling her she still needs to be the human’s pillar like he wanted her to be or does he have something else in mind?
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 am
Definitely has something else in mind.
MINOR SPOILER: Math thinks that the First Zombie is her grandpa, Sullivan Davis, and Math has deduced that Sullivan has kept this town alive because it’s of course his home town and that at the very least he might allow his one remaining living relative to be spared and might even want to talk to her privately, and he thinks that April might be the only one who might be able to get close to him — close enough to KILL HIM! I could spoil a ton more, but I won’t, and keep in mind that Math is not always right, and I wouldn’t be so sure that killing TFZ would help them at the time anyway. (I also recently revealed that I made a huge change in the story which made some of my previous spoilers false.)
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:12 am
Yay I was right it was zombies! Though considering the last page that’s a big fat duh! I’m very curious as to how she’s going to save them all though I figure it has to do with her being TVZ’s granddaughter. (Like math believes as Bobby said.) Ooooh some spoilers are now false? Can’t wait to find out which ones even though I’ve probably forgotten half. lol
The Vampire’s eyes always creep me out a little, but in a good way. lol And I can’t stop ‘fangirling’ at his hair. I love April’s expression in the last panel. I can almost hear her saying “Are you nuts? What could I possibly do?!”
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:43 am
nice to know that even now at the end of it all they are observing the religious
beliefs of those who have died … although the number of grave markers increase between panels ..or could just be the angle …and the trees look more ominous and looming in the last panel….it’s all closing in on them …. looks like they will have to hack their way out of the trees and brush if this goes on a few more panels… very scary movie moment there
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:48 am
“they are observing the religious beliefs of those who have died”
Those are all graves from earlier, not new ones yet. The cemetery is very close to the school. You’ll see the new ones on the next page.
“although the number of grave markers increase between panels ..or could just be the angle”
Just the angle — and zooming in, seeing more.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 am
You know, Bobby, you really need to cool it here in the comments. I like the comic, but I’m about ready to stop reading it all together because you come off as a pompous prick. Any time ANYONE mentions any kind of constructive criticism, you rudely punk them out and blatantly REFUSE to admit that it might even be POSSIBLE that you are wrong. (And yes, I agree with them that you should have used “their” instead of “his” and I’m an English Major. Your saying that “their” would be “more incorrect” just further proves my point.) If you’re going to put something like this out, learn to take some criticism cordially. If you disagree, there’s a polite way to do that.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:25 am
Hey, Javin, fuck you, kill yourself, never come back to this site, you fucking moron. Everything you just said is a retarded lie.
“Any time ANYONE mentions any kind of constructive criticism”
How the fuck is it constructive criticism to tell me flat out that something’s an error that I need to change when it’s clearly not an error whatsoever? When people actually do mention constructive criticism (almost never), I respond extremely nicely. You can look it up! But you wouldn’t know how because you have no brain in your head.
And just to let everyone know, as I’ve done before, if anyone else makes any criticism whatsoever about how I act in these comments, they’ll be instantly banned like this moron, especially if someone says anything remotely like “chill out” or “cool it.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:44 am
I agree with Necavi. Screw the zombies, save the doggie!!
Awesome comic, I love it! ^_^
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:53 am
Poor little pussy. Too much of a bitch to even debate someone online. Your life must be miserable. You’re a no-talent little shit riding on the coat tails of an artist, and trying to take all the credit. You’ve got the IQ of a garden slug, and about as much personality. Are you slightly mentally retarded too? Your comments would suggest it. Oh well, just keep deleting my posts, and I’ll keep stopping in on occasion to fuck with you when I get bored. Also, you’ll probably want to get your phone number changed.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:01 am
That’s Javin’s fourth or fifth message that he’s sent since he was banned. The previous ones simultaneously call me a “pre-teen” and also “14″ — not sure what kind of sense that makes. But hey, Javin, it sure is acting like an adult to call someone’s phone constantly and to fuck with someone when you’re bored and call them a million names and lie about them, right? Javin also said many times that he’s read every comment on every page. If that’s the case, Javin, why did you miss the part where I said clearly a few weeks back that I’d ban anyone who told me to chill out and wasted time talking about how I deal with people in comments instead of talking about the comic? Anyway, banned again obviously. Also, I spend most of my days debating people online — simply don’t want to annoy everyone by filling up all these comments with shit like that, so people like you need to have their comments deleted obviously at times before it takes over the whole damn thing. He’s also had to switch IP addresses each time to make these comments, by the way, so it’s pretty hilarious that he thinks I’m the one who should “cool it” and that I’m the one acting like a child.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:11 am
Marieke is right when she says that the following “his” matches with the singular zombies. Its not perfect saying “his”. Saying “his/her” would be the most correct grammer, but who the hell actually has the time and decency to say “his/her” in conversation? Especially VAMPIRES ON THE VERGE OF THE END OF THE WORLD.
“otherwise you’re implying that all zombies are male.” “Dialogue implies everything in a story, and in this medium it’s pretty much implying everything.” Unless you’re a close-minded or literally sensitive idiot, I doubt anyone will COMPLETELY ignore the presence of very feminine zombies in the earlier pages, just because Bobby used “his” is the dialogue.
Javin: “I agree with them that you should have used ‘their’ instead of ‘his’ and I’m an English Major. ” Just stating that youre an English major does not mean youre right. You’re wrong anyway. Also, anyone attending or has graduated from college knows that a major is just a snazzy title anyway. Being an english major doesnt mean you still dont know jack sh!t about language.
People being nitpicky about stupid grammer arent being very aware of the AWESOME work being done by Bobby.
Sequential comics rely on an easy flow of dialogue. Even if it was wrong, I’d still praise him for using normal everyday speech in his comics, rather than stuffy politically correct “his/her.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:18 am
LOL! So your response is to actually post ONE of my messages out of context then say “I know you are but what am I?” Niiice. Then you proceed to put words in my mouth, and accuse ME of “lying?” What on EARTH have I lied about? If anything, you’re compulsive about it. But I know you won’t let THIS message post, because THIS one would actually tell your readers the truth.
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:24 am
Nothing was posted out of context and I didn’t lie once or put any words in your mouth. Here are all of your deleted posts –
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LMAO! You’ve COMPLETELY made my point, you child. And yes, I’ve read every comment of every page of this comic, and this is your typical pre-teen reaction to anything you don’t like. What a moron.
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LMAO! You’ve COMPLETELY made my point, you child. And yes, I’ve read every comment of every page of this comic, and this is your typical pre-teen reaction to anything you don’t like. What a moron. What’s more, NOW you’re such an utter PUSSY you delete the messages because you don’t want everyone ELSE to see what a little puss you are! You really ARE 14, aren’t you?
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What’s the matter? To much of a ball-less bitch to take me on? Gonna sit and hide behind your monitor and delete my comments because it makes you feel powerful? You’re just a fucking no-talent hack anyway. The real talent is your artist. Why he’d even listen to you is beyond me.
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No more, though.
Also, you asked what you lied about. I already went over this. Just one example of a huge lie: “Any time ANYONE mentions any kind of constructive criticism, you rudely punk them out and blatantly REFUSE to admit that it might even be POSSIBLE that you are wrong.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 6:45 am
Javin, if you ever read this, which I know you will, as you’re very much like an angry bee and equally irritating; I want you to know that I know Bobby as the absolute opposite of you in everything.
Take that as you will, I rest my case.
Do me a favour though, and go put your head in a bucket of ice and don’t come up for air till you’ve cooled down or the water’s evaporated. Thank you.
*goes to stand beside Itsjustmi* I support one hell of an artist, and I’m not about to stop. Bobby, thank you for banning that twit. Things are getting better already.
The HummingBird - here one moment, gone the next
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:41 am
A little comment from Holland. Yes a dutch guy is reading your comic.
Been reading this page’s comments and boy, it sure is funny to sit back and watch two people swinging at eachother. I’m not looking for a fight by saying this though, just my opinion.
I just wanted to say I enjoy your comic since it contains zombies and the always popular “end of the world” theme, which appeal to me like Romero’s films and all other zombie related movies, games and thanks to you, comics.
Keep up the good work and although I find it odd to read “new page every MWF” but only see ONE every week, I will keep reading and enjoying it.
BTW Marieke are you dutch because it’s a dutch/belgian name
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:42 am
Long time reader first time commenter.
“Hey, Javin, fuck you, kill yourself, never come back to this site, you fucking moron. Everything you just said is a retarded lie.”
Oh Bobby that is the best. I respect you so much for saying that. It’s your website, you should be able to treat it however you like. If they guy doesn’t like it he should go create his own comic.
Keep up the good work.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:43 am
Pardon me for my two cents, But to Javin, and anyone else who wants to “constructively criticize”. Why bother?? In the end, It’s Bobby’s comic, and we’re all just along for the ride. Now whether or not the use of certain words are “gramatically correct” shouldn’t be an issue. I’m almost POSITIVE that NONE of us are gramatically correct in our speech all the time. That’s just the way people talk - deal with it. And Bobby - ignore these chumps and keep going with this story. When you have a comment section like this, you are bound to get a few jerks who feel the need to piss on everything you do.
Do the comic for yourself. If people enjoy it, they will ALWAYS come back, and will purchase the final product. These same people will spread the word, and others will come. Don’t do the comic FOR them though.
Personally, I feel that it’s a great story so far, and has changed the way I look at Zombies (I’m a big fan of “Romero” zombies personally), and this comic has served to broaden the way I look at them.
In the end though, the artist/writer/actor/whatever can only do his craft for himself. If others are pleased - great. If not, who cares?? As long as the writer/artist gets personal fulfillment out of his craft, then that is all that matters, and all that SHOULD matter.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:57 am
“Too much of a bitch to even debate someone online. Your life must be miserable.”
Debating on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:03 am
And why should he debate with you? It’s his website, his bandwidth, and his time. Why should you, as a fan, have any input on the story at all? This isn’t open source. Pull your head out of your ass for five seconds, and stop sniffin’ your farts.
An English Degree? What, was Poli-Sci too hard for you? Okay, so you essentially admit that you spent four years and a ton of money on something you already knew. And you have the nerve to call someone else an idiot?
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:22 am
Anyyyyyyyways, back to the comic… anyone else think it’d be cool in a twisted way for TFZ to turn April into a Zombie and she kills Math to end the story?
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 am
teehee, well no, sorry…
Maybe, in the end, April asks Math to bite her so they can live together, forever and cue violins as they walk into the sunset…
but then, that’s just too corney… hmm, hard one that…
Maybe your idea wasn’t so bad after all
- the HummingBird -
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:13 am
Bobby Crosby can pretty say what he wants, like anybody else can. It’s obvious he wasn’t deleting your post out of “fear” to take you on. He might ban the people who criticise HIM instead of his work, but his still posts their comments (fom what I can see). It’s a little pathetic, and FRIGHTENING, that Javin actually called you at home.
The only thing he might want to watch out for is if you ever want this thing to be on the big screen, the people who might fund such a venture will surely read up on the comic and may visit the comments section.
They might think by the comments he makes that he is a hot head and might be hard to work with. That could possibly hurt his chances. I’m sure he knows this already and just don’t care, but it’s true nevertheless. I really want to see this movie on the bigscreen, as any fan would.
But it probobly will in any case. the his/their thing is pretty stupid, because whatever the “right” answer is, has no bearing to what Math actually said. he said THAT. whether is was right or wrong makes no difference. He could have said “gglsd poopoohead” and it wouldn’t matter if that’s what the character actually would have SAID. If it rings true to the character is another story. Does “gglsd poopoohead” rign true to the character, NO.
Does saying “His” instead of “theirs”. Absolutely.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:25 am
Wow, Javin, you’re an asshole. Go away.
(although these arguments do make me chuckle sometimes)
Anyway, the comic is beautiful and the story-line is gripping. Last Blood is one of the three online comics I check daily now.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:29 am
Dear Javin:
Please, go and die. I mean, as a non-native english speaker, I can not understand how you can be so cruel? Just go and watch a movie, or listen to some music, or, as as an english major, you are probably not allowed to do both, so go read a book. For example, read of Mice and Men by Steinbeck. Then, rewrite the entire diagolgue written in slang or street english in perfect oxford english. See what I talk about?
Even Steinbeck, who in my eyes is a tiny OCD ridden Commy, knows that giving a character certain flaws, like slang, or habits of bad speaking, makes them more believable. This process, as you surely know, is called character building. Guess you first have to have an interesting personality before you can understand what it takes to build an interesting personality.
Guess you are not. you are an english major. Go figure.
Bobby, if I am true, you are doing me the greatest of all possible boons. You are giving it a good backstory. I am sooo happy.
My main hint was that math talks the first time about using April to kill TFZ… if the previous spoilers were all true, the resulting million of Zombies would practically tear the little school apart. You mave mentioned previously that TFZ controlls the whole zombies, and keeps them from mindlessly attacking. (I think it was as an answer on the question if killing TFZ would help)
If you would, in that case, kill TFZ, the zombies would do the first thing they can…..
“BRAAAAAINS!!”
end of the story, because I seriously have no Idea how the school woul survive all of the Zombies.
Now, if you change the fact that hell would break loose if you kill TFZ…. Then, you would give the people, except MM of course, a fair chance. If you do that by killing TFZ, which you could only accomplish through the change of said spoiler, then ….
YOU TOO CARE ABOUT THE ZOMBIES!!!!!
I am kind of happy right now, and even if you come up with a more simple and understandable plan ( I think you are about to post that you do not understand me), that does something entirely else, then I am perfectly happy.
@ Owen: Seriously, April keeps looking more and more like a Barbie. Why do you keep only drawing hot vampires and some barbies? You saw where it went?
Owen, your zombies are all male. Please, if you want to make me happy, draw a hot dead girl. You have prooven that you can do so. When the movie is made, then I would like to see some hot dead ass, please.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 am
LADEDA.
Man, you guys got into a FURIOUS debate about language.
And what’s really stupid is that none of you are “right.”
There’s so much argument about what is “right” and “wrong” to use in English because English is spoken by some pretty major countries. The English in the U.K. speak and talk and such how they want to and the “Americans” (though I hate calling us people from the States that…) have their own way of speaking/writing words.
None of that came out the way it was supposed to.
Anyway, “his” and “their” is something DEBATED in English. Math/Bobby Crosby/Javin can use whichever version they want to.
Apparently for less formal writing, “his” is acceptable, instead of “his or her,” and the speaker is supposed to use either “his” or “her” depending on their gender.
Since Math is male, he would use “his” in this situation. If April was to say the same thing, she would use “her.” I think females have the option of using “his” if they feel more comfortable. Something like that.
“Their” can be used here, too. It’s something that the younger generations do. English majors (older ones) still use “his” or “his or her” and it can be odd to hear, but that’s how they learned it.
Whee, first comment and it’s to tell you that none of you are right. Yay for being neutral. I’m sure there’s plenty of mistakes with my English, since I’m not proof-reading this or anything. La de da. English is debated fiercely, so you guys just need to shut up and not bring up stupid stuff like this.
I like the dog in the art, it’s cute.
Nice comic, by the way. I love how you fuse Vampires and Zombies together into a single story and how Vampires become Zombies after a while. I’d love to see a prequel, too.
I likely won’t read any response to this…So “HA!”
I’m sure someone will stalk me using my username, though.
August 22nd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Her eyes are huge. She must be in shock. For the 100th time in the last few days, I’m sure.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pm
…Or, “I’m telling you when you’re going to have to save us all… In bed.”
The undead flirt ugly.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Oooh, Owen! I forgot to mention;; I love how she looks on this page. And her expression in the second panel is awesome. Your understanding of expressions is astounding.
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Yay go Bobby thanks for banning that whiny bitch
hey Javin do you have a Veoh username 02clayclay? cause you insult just like him. very crappily
August 22nd, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Ok, here’s what my grammar book said on the his/their issue:
His is historically accepted in the U.S.
Her has been the preferred choice in the U.K. (which my book treats as more authoritative, being the birthplace of the language. They even point out that American novelists often use her in futurist work but they don’t show any examples.)
After feminism (and issues of gender equity in general) gained a pop culture toehold, many felt that letting either gender stand for the other was inappropriate, but the book basically calls anything short of bringing neuter nouns back into the language (”back” is a little subjective since there’s no *real* English/Pre-English line) a bunch of half-assed bull.
So yeah, it looks to me like BrokenTripod was exactly right: English Language Professionals probably flame each other all to hell over this stuff so there’s really no such thing as right. But c’mon. This isn’t a grammar book, and Bobby clearly edits this stuff before he posts it. It’s art. Failure is possible, but not mistakes. It is what it is. The artist just tries to make sure it is what *they* want it to be.
August 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 pm
“As long as the writer/artist gets personal fulfillment out of his craft, then that is all that matters, and all that SHOULD matter.”
I have yet to get any fulfillment. As I’ve said many times, including in that podcast, I’m very displeased with my writing on “Last Blood,” which makes it even more annoying when people point out errors that AREN’T ERRORS. It’s bad enough as it is without having people incorrectly claim that it’s actually worse than it is for retarded reasons. (I’ve also said this same thing many times in the comments.)
“Debating on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.”
Just feel like pointing out that I think this quote is retarded and pointless. Nothing wrong with debating on the internet — it’s much better than arguing in real life, that’s for sure. I’ve also said this many times, blah blah blah.
“They might think by the comments he makes that he is a hot head and might be hard to work with. That could possibly hurt his chances. I’m sure he knows this already and just don’t care, but it’s true nevertheless.”
No, it’s not true, but even if it were true, I certainly wouldn’t want to work with anyone who doesn’t want to work with me because of reading these comments. Only total morons would feel that way. Also, especially in a situation like this, studios don’t have to worry too much about working with the writer. They’re buying the concept mostly, and they have a long history of firing and hiring a dozen different writers for one project. It’s just silly and wrong for anyone to think I’d be hard to work with from reading these comments, though, as if I’d act in this same manner to my new boss who is paying me tons of money for my work. Don’t you think I’d act maybe just SLIGHTLY differently towards them than I’d act towards some piece of shit moron who calls me a “ball-less bitch” because I don’t accept that his incorrect grammar is correct? Jeez.
“the resulting million of Zombies would practically tear the little school apart. You mave mentioned previously that TFZ controlls the whole zombies, and keeps them from mindlessly attacking.”
It all depends on when it’s done. If TFZ was killed RIGHT NOW, with the nearest zombies being about 20 miles away, that would help the situation greatly. The zombies would stop all moving in the same direction — it’s not like they can smell human blood from 20 miles away like TFZ can with his vampire powers. And then the humans/vampires would have a chance to get away. See, the problem with protecting the humans is that TFZ can control all these zombies to do his bidding and he could drop bombs on them and so on and he can smell them out and always find them, so even vampires couldn’t do a whole lot to stop that. But if they’re just up against a bunch of mindless zombies, it would be fairly easy for several vampires to protect a small group of humans. But if TFZ is killed when the humans are totally surrounded by thousands of zombies, that might be a problem! Also keep in mind that I’m still keeping secret a HUGE HUGE thing that relates to how this all ends. I haven’t spoiled nearly everything yet.
“end of the story, because I seriously have no Idea how the school woul survive all of the Zombies.”
You’ll see.
“Owen, your zombies are all male. Please, if you want to make me happy, draw a hot dead girl.”
There’s been several zombie girls so far, including at least one “hot” one.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Hot zombies? Go play Dead Rising.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Those hot zombies will eat your crotch if you get too close, so watch out.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:25 pm
I mean, thank you for the comment on the already present zombie-hooties. Now, I think I have a solution to the riddle. How about the following: a person or a newborn vampire dedicated to rebuilding the society is drained of all his blood, and thus somehow finally killed. I mean, in my eyes, the entire 65 years period is nothing more then an extended hibernation. The Organism, dependant on his energy source, cools down the processes like thinking, seeing, breathing…. even movement.
Now, if the last of the energy in the blood had been used up, it would be very acurate that the heart finally stops beating, no muscles work anymore, and you will die if you do not eat soon.
Now, I would suggest, that the vampire Virus now mutates. would be the most logical behaviour for a pseudo-intelligent lifeform that wants its hosts alife. It changes from a purely nonviolent form that focuses on the one host to a form that in original retains nearly all of its capabilitys, but works on spending most of its efforts on spreading, is now more agressively enabled. It makes its host seek out new hosts, only to spread the virus far and wide. this would also explain TFZ’s abilitys: latent mind controll, retaining of other zombies….. The virus aurtomatically assumes that its host is in danger, and wants to help the host. so, it mutates, attacks the nearest guys or girls, and creates basically ressources for TFZ at his will, or for the virus to spread, however you want it.
Now, based on this , if the vampires manage to simulate the 65 year process somehow, most likely through bleeding said subject out, thus reducing his saved energy, they could as well create their own TFZ. So, they basically would just need to kill the old TFZ, and the new TFZ is able to herd the zombies away, or render them immobile, whatever you want, so the vampires can kill the original TFZ, if they have some kind of replacement.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 pm
“his/their debate”
Heh. Could we compromise? How about “its?” Every zombie is on “its” way here? ‘Cuz I don’t know about you guys, but I’d rather think about zombies as kinda genderless, ‘cuz whoa, otherwise….ewww. Yuck.
Seriously though people, read a comic to enjoy it. It’s entertainment. No one except YOU like it when you find something “wrong.” It just ruins the fun for the rest of us.
@Bobby: love the comic, and I was hoping to put it on my recommended reading page, but I can’t find any banners. Could you help a ‘gal out?
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:28 pm
I say death to all English teachers, first up against the wall when the revolution comes, or the end of the world lol.
Note: Never correct an author/writer, this leads to socialist thinking and then your brains slowly turn into zombie mush.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:40 pm
By the way, here’s a great comparison for the initial complaints here about “his” . . .
It’s the same exact thing as if the comic featured an extremely stupid character who was horrible at math and someone asked him what 2+2 was and he said 5 and then someone complained and said, “There’s an error on the first line.. you should change ‘Five’ to ‘Six’, otherwise you’re implying that 2+2 is 5.” So not only is it impossible for it to be an “error,” since it’s something that this character would say, not knowing the answer himself, but the correction he gives is also wrong. Calling that constructive criticism is laughably stupid.
“love the comic, and I was hoping to put it on my recommended reading page, but I can’t find any banners. Could you help a ‘gal out?”
Sure, just e-mailed you one, and here’s a small one –
http://www.lastblood.net/117×30-lastblood.gif
(Link doesn’t seem to be working and I can’t get the image to show up here — oh well, annoying.)
Baltazaar: I didn’t understand most of that, but anyway, I don’t think any of that is coming into play!
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 am
Damn. I would hate to see what would happen if Mr. Crosby every misused
“their/there/they’re” of “its/it’s.”
Great interview on Slice, btw.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 am
Damn. Must remember to post *after* my morning coffee, not before.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:07 am
http://www.lastblood.net/117×30-lastblood.gif
working link?
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:08 am
or not. It adds stupid spaces in the url for some reason.
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:20 am
I wonder what will happen to the 8 billion zombies once TFZ is dead? would the be directionless and just swarm the last survivors in a feeding frenzy? would they crumble to dust or fall down into a true death?
no need to answer this, im just contemplating outloud
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:01 am
““I think it’s super funny. The comments are almost better than the comic itself some days.â€
(That last quote definitely rings true for today’s page!) ”
for sure!
“If you disagree, there’s a polite way to do that.”
“Hey, Javin, fuck you, kill yourself, never come back to this site, you fucking moron. Everything you just said is a retarded lie.”
i lol’d hard. at first i thought i smelt some kind of irony there, but seems like you were serious =)
“Nothing wrong with debating on the internet — it’s much better than arguing in real life, that’s for sure. I’ve also said this many times, blah blah blah.”
loved that one as well, i like your style!
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
Hey Bobby and Owen…
I just listened to the interview.
Great job!
If you end up producing the movie yourselves and look for financing…I’ll chip in $100 for the financing…more if I manage to graduate from college by the time you guys start production (if Hollywood doesn’t pick the comic up first!).
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:06 am
Alternately…find a sofa somewhere for me to sleep on, and I’d do Craft Services (for those of you who don’t know what that is…it’s feeding the crew and keeping ‘em all happy) for you guys, pro bono. I would so love to see this made into a movie!
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 pm
I think the best answer to what happens after all the humans are zombies…Is that there is no answer!
It’s never happened before, and unless one of the vampires is a curious sadist and wants to find out…
And there’s always that quote: “Life will find a way,” from somewhere…I don’t know where. Darwin?
La de da. Great comic, too bad that banner link doesn’t work (I don’t have a site, but I was just going to check out how it looked).
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Hogi: *waves* yep, I’m Belgian alright!
alles goed daar in de lage landen??
(for the really curious; ask hogi to translate, I’m off to bed… tired… feeling all zombie myself.)
- the zombie-HummingBird -
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Michelle: That all sounds great! I appreciate it. At the earliest we’d shoot the movie in April or May probably, so stay in touch and we’ll see what happens!
By the way, in Javin’s most recent comments (deleted) he’s called you all “fucking morons” and has also said that I lied about him calling me at home. Javin, I never said that you called me at home. You strongly implied that you would be calling me at home a ton when you said I’d have to change my number, so I said “But hey, Javin, it sure is acting like an adult to call someone’s phone constantly.” That is not saying that you called me — it’s simply referring to what you implied you’d do.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pm
No nitpicking from me. I love almost all zombie comics. This comic r0xx0rz my s0xx0rz.
And like any webcomic, I wish it’d update more often. The only way I could possibly hope to achieve that goal is by giving money, which I don’t have. So instead I can give praise
This comic rules
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:17 pm
btw the link does work if you replace all the %garbage between 117 and 30 with an x
I put it in as the “website” for my name in this post, might work, won’t know until i click POST.
http://www.lastblood.net/117×30-lastblood.gif
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Debating on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still a retard.
OMFG, LMFAO!
Bobby, I love everything you do. Never ever ever change or I will weep tears of great sorrow.
Ok, now that my sycophantism(no idea if this is a real word) is partially done, I must speak.
Bobby can take constructive criticism. He wouldn’t be a writer if he couldn’t. Sure, he seems abrasive and angry and RAGE when he responds, but, fuck, so would I if a bunch of bastards were trying to tear down my beloved story over nitpick-y little shit like when steals and blocks were recorded and how to properly write dialogue while ignoring the concept of dialect. Hell, I’ve offered criticism and opinions of this comic the entire time(I called TFZ’s a vamp on page 10), but I do my best to be respectful of the time and effort that has to be put into this project to make shit work right. I know how hard this shit is, because I try to fucking write too, but I suck.
PS. Javin, I hate you with a vehemence unmatched in this mortal world. Please, find a way to be simutaneously raped by orangutans while being ripped to shreds by sea turtles. Then die.
Owen! The art is always amazing. Thank you for being so tolerant.
August 23rd, 2007 at 6:10 pm
wa hah ah ahahahahahaaaaaaaaa ahhh.
I think Javin, and the wholehearted response to him, makes him my favorite hateable troll I’ve met to date.
I don’t care if Math elects to speak in iambic pentameter if it fits his character and forwards the plot in believable ways. If every single zombie is on its way to eat me, I’d just like the facts please.
I live for your updates!
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:01 pm
I think this link might work:
http://www.lastblood.net/117×30-lastblood.gif
and “his” is correct, or “her” or “its” or any combination of those, but not “their.”
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:00 pm
I think they should gather explosives and make the zombies go boom =) considering the fact that some of the vampires can fly i think they should be able to get the humans to high ground and blow the hell out of the zombies group by group =)
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 am
God, I think that Jarvin retard gives a bad name to English majors and teachers alike!
One thing is you teaching someone how to write according to the rules of a language (let’s say an essay, for instance), another is to write realistic dialogues. Come on!!! I’ve got English students that write compositions where I remember them: attention please, this is correct in a dialogue but careful not to write it in a formal text!!
That’s the function of a teacher! To teach the correct so that you can know when to use it or not. And most great writers know the correct and don’t use it because of exactly that: languages are living things with a mind of their own. The “correct” is just a set of rules to help children and foreigners to have a better grasp of the language!
As for the his/her/its/ their… please, if everyone in these comments has shown to have a different opinion, don’t you think you’d listen to it all if they were speaking to eachother? Would they go and correct themselves in that case? NO!
(And if some nutcase did, then everyone would jump into a hot debate “WTF!? You’re wrong an’ I’m right! Get out of ‘ere!”)
August 24th, 2007 at 12:02 am
Oh! BTW, can’t wait to see what’s going to happen next!
August 24th, 2007 at 5:01 am
*****PS. Javin, I hate you with a vehemence unmatched in this mortal world. Please, find a way to be simultaneously raped by orangutans while being ripped to shreds by sea turtles. Then die.*****
OMG..I laughed and almost snorted when I read that. What a great way to start the morning! Thanks for that vo!
And…you’re welcome, Bobby! I’ve done Craft Service on two small films…done the purchasing for all the junky stuff that keeps a crew happy, made arrangements for catering for the major meals, and love to play with food when making snacks for the guys…so doing that isn’t work for me…it’s more fun than anything!
I am not generally a comic book reader…the last time I bought a comic book was back when Amethyst, Princess of the Gem World was in print (I still have copies of that packed away somewhere…and I am also finishing my college degree a bit late in life, but better late than never!). I am REALLY enjoying Last Blood…and would be happy to help make it a reality!
As for people who do the nay-saying…geez of fricking petes. ;-p If they think it’s so easy, as I’ve said before…they need to go out and do what you are doing. It’s much easier to complain than it is to actually DO something…and to do it successfully as you and Owen are??? People just don’t get it that it takes a lot to get where you guys are.
BTW…my take on the whole English flap…I write conversationally. As far as I am concerned…as long asUdon type dialogue in text short hand and spell correctly (my pet peeve…unless it’s necessary to establish a character…)…do whatever the heck you want!
August 24th, 2007 at 5:15 am
Marieke: Jazeker alles goed hier, dankje, eindelijk een beetje zon. Hoest daar dan in het land van bier, chocola en friet? En manneke pis… Hehe sorry hiervoor ik bedoel er niks negatiefs mee.
Anyway, let’s not make this a private chat, it’s rude. Still looking forward to the next comic!
August 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
As to the banner image, for some reason the lowercase ‘x’ gets turned into a multiplication symbol at posting. Replace the ‘x’ with one from your keyboard and this url should work:
http://www.lastblood.net/117X30-lastblood.gif
August 24th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Personally I got no problem with the dialog. There might even be a legitimate reason for using ‘his’ in this context - the zombie horde is, in effect, operating at the direction of a single mind. That single mind/ single identity *is* male.
From certain points of view the zombie horde is TFZ because it operates as a direct extension of his will. It could be a perfectly legitimate way of speaking amongst vampires about the subject.
***
On another matter long since debated into the ground which nonetheless pops up here and there…
If there are in fact any modern military still active anywhere on the planet (certain elements of the modern Navy for example?) they doubtless have access to at least some orbital surveillance assets. Such assets could easily spot this mass convergence of zombies and thus locate/ identify the school if they haven’t already.
Too much to ask for an intact carrier group to have survived, but single ships here and there slowly starving to death…
Dunno if they could actually do much this far from the ocean, but they could see it happening at least. Be interesting to see if they are still out there.
I feel sorry for whoever was stuck up in orbit when this all went down. Poor bastards were screwed in so many ways.
August 24th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Absolutely love this comic. Zombies and vampires duking it out = awesome. Keep up the great work!
P.S. If you were a talentless hack like Javin says, you wouldnt have so many readers and comments.
August 24th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
“If you were a talentless hack like Javin says, you wouldnt have so many readers and comments.”
Well, I’d totally disagree with this. Tons of talentless hacks have tons more readers than this comic, and I’m not at all pleased with my work on “Last Blood.” Also, Javin credits Owen for any success “Last Blood” has, and good art certainly has a lot to do with it.
“If there are in fact any modern military still active anywhere on the planet . . .”
I’m not positive, but I think you’ve brought this up several times, and each time I’ve said that the only humans left alive are the ones from this small town and also 200 in Mexico (all of which will die very soon). There is no human military of any kind active, other than Murdo as a one man army.
August 24th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
“Murdo as a one man army.”
kickass!!!
Vo i would never ever want to be on your badside
October 27th, 2007 at 10:53 am
i think hitler is the undead king.and hes just toying around with Math until he bites him off for revenge.sorry, i had just started reading, so maybe this will be shown in the next couple of episodes.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:50 am
THIS IS THE BEST PAGE SO FAR!
April 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Just a little note, though I’m not sure if anyone mentioned this:
In French, there is both a masculine and feminine “they” (ils, elles). If it’s a group of women, it’s correct to use the feminine “elles”, but if there is just one guy, then you are supposed to use the masculine “ils”. Yes, I know we speak English and not French, but I thought it was interesting. (Besides, as a correlation, English used to have singular and plural forms of “you” just like the French. That’s what “thy” and “thou” are.)
Also, in my Technical Writing course, it’s alright to use either just “his”. It’s bad to use it in documents when you could possibly offend people, but then again, I doubt April will really stick up for the zombies.
Though, imagine if the zombies went on zombie-strike as a counter… “No, we WILL NOT maim, bite, devour, horribly disfigure, or destroy the human race until this sexism ends and our demands are met!”
Also, I think it’s important that we all remember that Bobby and Owen, as well as almost every other web-comic writer/artist/etc, create their work out of their own free will. 95% of the time (from my experience) they do not do so for pay, or are under any sort of contract; they do so because they want to, and there are times that they want to give up because they are tired of the work, but don’t for some driven reason.
So thank you, Bobby and Owen. Unable to speak for anyone else, I appreciate the effort you both have put into this, and I’m glad that it’s still together after all this time. Good luck with your movie; I eagerly await to see it. : )
June 28th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I think it’s a problem that the comments sections end up being more interesting than the comic. And it’s not because the comic is bad. There just needs to be more focus by everyone–everyone–on the comic, and not these so-called debates. At some point the debates stopped being debates and turned into arguments, which is sad because the comic really is good.