Page 97: Goodbye My Lover
Saturday, November 10th, 2007Look, Val died.
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Look, Val died.
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November 10th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
November 10th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Wow.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Wah? Huh? Buh……Val got staked?!?!?!? This can only lead to a rampage a la Murdo.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
The question is… Who’s lover?
November 10th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Val has been many people’s lover, and she was TFZ’s as well.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
5th poast. I crave toast. “I have the moast toast,” boasted a ghost.
Had to say that.
Anyway, yeah, who IN SPECIFIC were you thinking of in the title? Besides Val, of course.
Unless of course you’re saying she’s a total slut and is COMPLETELY even between all of them.
In other news, is it just me or has Math been less and less important from the start? I demand that the movie have at least one cool scene with him doing something kickass and important at the end. >=(
November 10th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
“who IN SPECIFIC were you thinking of in the title?”
Um, The First Zombie is killing her, so obviously him.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
well cool
November 10th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Hate double posting, but seeing as there’s no edit button… Just thought that Math killing TFZ with the same (forget what it’s called for some reason, probably because it’s past two) pointy wood thing that TFZ killed Val with would be awesome.
…STAKE! That’s it.
Anyway, great job, Owen, this is a work of art. And Bobby, thanks for… Well this scene had been predicted for over 10 pages now so I can’t exactly say “THANKS FOR THIS SUDDEN PLOT TWIST,” so… thanks for your MS paint drawings? XP
November 10th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Is it just me, or would the chains that bind Murdo’s wrists make AWESOME bracers?
November 10th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
M night shyamalan: what a Twist!
haha had to do it, any ways so the vampires are all out of steam at this point correct? so i’m guessing murdo being free won’t really affect this part too much if i’m correct…hope i’m not though cause you finally get to see TFZ and murdo is ready to kick some ass!
November 10th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
No way! Out of the left field.. at least thats some HOT axe action before her departure! Am I right?
On a non-97-specific note; bring back Prissy, unnamed, understated gorgeous vamp with a rapier!
November 10th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Why her? I liked her so much?
Iam gonna do graves with my friend for awesome vampires who got killed in this comic
November 10th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
O_O I really did not expect that at all. And it happens so fast that I’m not sure that the shock of it has really hit me. Give me a few before I let it clobber me.
And Murdo looks ready for some revenge upon being chained up, so I’m looking to see some Murdo pwnage really soon, after he frees a couple of zombies. go to town, man!
This is Claen’tor, signing off.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Hah, she deserved it. Let that be a lesson folks, it does not pay off to be a ho. And I’m wondering how many more people are gonna ask you who “lover” is. XD
November 10th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Aside from the annoying radio shack ad that WOULD NOT GO AWAY when I loaded up the page I have to say ‘Awesome’ and completely mean it…
*goes to bed grumbling about annoying flash advertisements*
K.,C.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
“Hah, she deserved it. Let that be a lesson folks, it does not pay off to be a ho.”
Well, at this point in the story it seems like he did her a favor by killing her — saving her from 65 years of torture. But if it wasn’t for her prior actions (in World War II) none of this would have happened in the first place, so yeah, doesn’t pay off. (And the good guys win anyway and none of them go through the torture, so she got screwed!)
Also, minor spoiler: Armored zombies have already surrounded Murdo and are chaining him up again, sorry.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
I like how the cut on the chains wasn’t clean. You can see the axe cut just as much of Murdo as it did the chains. It won’t hurt it, but I thought it was a nice touch that really caught my eye.
Keep up the great work.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Wow. I hate to say this but one panel did not do her death justice. Not at all.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
It actually does hurt, but only for like half a second before it heals. The vampires can definitely feel pain, as Addison told Rage when they were crashing the plane.
“I hate to say this but one panel did not do her death justice. Not at all.”
What do you mean “one panel”? Don’t understand.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Yeah. It’s clear by the look on his face he felt pain. I just meant “hurt” with different context. As in, it won’t hinder him. Regardless, it’s just semantics.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Agreed. Glad you noticed it.
By the way, just to make it clear: The title means TFZ saying goodbye to Val by killing her. It’s not Val saying goodbye to anyone.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
My word…my eyes seem to be bleeding awesomeness from just seeing such an awesome page. If you know what I mean.
November 10th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
BUT…. AHHH!!
I thought Val lived.
Lol..and right after i read like all the comments..
guess i didn’t read well enough
oh well…
November 11th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Wow, I think I even felt that one going through my heart… Forgive my french but Val was one bad-ass character so I am going to miss her now.
Is anyone left that is unchained to take a jab at TFZ? I hate to think its all up to the humans now to save the vampries (massive irony).
November 11th, 2007 at 12:04 am
None of them go through the torture.. cool. But who’s next to get staked I wonder?
November 11th, 2007 at 12:10 am
the TFZs… ew and awkward at the same time
November 11th, 2007 at 12:11 am
“the TFZs… ew and awkward at the same time”
He was a human the last time they were lovers.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:12 am
I really love TFZ’s expression…This page is wonderful, well done Bobby and Owen. I personally don’t care Val dies. I always thought she was a bitch…
November 11th, 2007 at 12:19 am
…Whoa. O_O I mean. Whoa.
Let’s be honest, Val gets a LOT of character developement; although, admittedly, a lot of that is through what we know via spoilers! xD But seeing this is… Jarring?
Yeah. Jarring. It’s like a very fast, in-your-face, no time to reel sort of thing that sort of left me going “huh… buh… wha?” for a bit.
Very quick; very shocking. Very well done indeed! I do like it. Now I can’t wait to see the next page. ;_;
November 11th, 2007 at 1:00 am
It took a minute for me to realize what went out so I had to re-read it. Kind of a slow person.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Perfect. Just perfect. Good job man.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:19 am
Now I’m sad.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:37 am
o_o…*sobs*, killed by the first zombie (tfz) too…
November 11th, 2007 at 2:07 am
I like her eyes in the second to last panel. she seems to be asking “why?” or maybe “So is that all?”
Also, TFZ must be REALLY strong – driving a (questionably sharp) wooden stake through one’s ribcage so that it pierces her heart, especially when she doesn’t WANT to be staked, isn’t precisely an easy thing to do. Especially if said vampire has boobs. It just… doen’t make it any easier. (Don’t ask me how I know.)
November 11th, 2007 at 2:09 am
Man, TFZ was pretty Johnny On The Spot with that stake. The way the page looks it’s like she just ran right into him.
I just like to imagine TFZ was chatting with a stake in his hand and Val bumped into him. Next page should be TFZ going:
“GODDAMNT! WHY DIDN’T ANYONE TELL—-WHAT THE HELL YOU GUYS?! I MEAN, I KNOW I CONTROL YOU BUT COULD SOMEONE SPEAK UP FOR ONCE? JESUS. Like living in a fucking twilight zone over here. Sorry everybody, my bad. Meant to torture that one. *kicks dead Val* Yep…meant to torture that one reeeeal good.”
November 11th, 2007 at 2:14 am
Also Val is beautiful.
And that smoke thing in the last panel – is that her soul going away? It looks like that.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:18 am
No, it’s smoke. When you kill a vampire, the stake becomes extremely hot. A human will kill a vampire before this story is over and it will burn the skin off of that human’s hand.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:24 am
Ah. too bad. It would’ve been so poetic.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:25 am
Anyway, thank you for the answer.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:26 am
And will … that vampire… be Addison F. Payne?
November 11th, 2007 at 2:30 am
Lord, what the fuck — did you not notice that I combined your last triple post into one post and now you’re doing another one right away? Double post again and you’re banned.
“And will … that vampire… be Addison F. Payne?”
No.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:45 am
TFZ is just too awesome. Now I got distracted by his sugary badness and the rest of the post will go down the drain. This would look even more awesome in the movie. I can imagine what Val’s last thoughts are. I better not post them.
“Hah, she deserved it. Let that be a lesson folks, it does not pay off to be a ho.”
Amen to that, Lydia. She had it coming.
November 11th, 2007 at 3:09 am
I’ve been reading the comments pretty much every page from where the comic was when I started reading, like 30 or 35 pages ago. Somehow I utterly missed the spoiler of Val dying. Needless to say I was shocked. Awesome job as always.
November 11th, 2007 at 4:18 am
…
Great page.
*goes to mourn Val*
November 11th, 2007 at 4:43 am
ooopsie someone got a nasty splinter there .. at least it was a surprise …lesson learned …don’t turn your head to give instructions as it leaves you wide open for an attack….
November 11th, 2007 at 5:38 am
I LOVE the look ON TFZ’s face there. Is it just me or is that expression a mix of anger and hurt? Very dramatic page. Very poetic end for her but… Poor Val. It may have been explained in comments on previous pages *which I’ve been admittedly not keeping up with very well* But when I read the title “goodbye my lover” and then saw TFZ killing Val I figured it was him telling her goodbye. lol Looking forward to the end because it’s gonna be awesome but at the same time not because… it’s gonna be over! *sad face*
November 11th, 2007 at 5:45 am
sorry for quoting about half the sensible things people said about this page but:
Wow. I mean really… wow.
There is something that strikes a chord in every panel. Absolutely wonderful!
*hugs bobby and owen then runs off to catch Val’s spirit*
keep it up!
oh, and bobby, I thought is was quite obvious what the title meant. Kudos!
The HummingBird ~ gone again
November 11th, 2007 at 6:05 am
But but but?! During the night attack in the building, weren’t zombies supposed to kidnap Val in order to prevent her from committing suicide? Why is TFZ killing her now, then, when vampires have lost and are about to experience the hunger pain? (Well, at least TFZ is probably thinking so at this point of the story.) Did he change his minds and now wants _other_ vampires to suffer, but not her?
November 11th, 2007 at 6:16 am
Hum… I dont think the last panel was a good choice of sceane. It would be much more dramatic and keep the story rythm if it showed, i dont know, Val being staked than already dead on the floor.
(sorry for bad english)
But the art is great, anyway. It is so good to find webcomics with good art.
And i’m loving it! I can’t wait for the next pages.
November 11th, 2007 at 6:46 am
NO! Val! Why you!?
November 11th, 2007 at 7:07 am
TFZ does NOT look happy about tht little burst of defiance, rape them all with stakes! XD
November 11th, 2007 at 7:20 am
Wait.. he stakes her between her breasts… and then the stake suddenl moves to her armpit? WTF?
November 11th, 2007 at 7:24 am
I’m a little confused. Isn’t it kind of all for nothing now? I mean, I can imagine TFZ hates Val with a fiery passion, so wouldn’t she be the one vampire he wanted to make sure went through the torture?
You even said earlier that the whole point of the Zombies attacking the gym was to capture her so she didn’t stake herself.
Of course, as you said, the good guys end up winning so there is no torture and she got the raw end of the deal, but TFZ wouldn’t be going into this thinking “I’ve whittled the world down to 32 humans and 30 vampires. Time to prepare a backup plan in case I start losing.”
November 11th, 2007 at 7:43 am
*sigh* Am I the only one missing the poeticism here? Is it that after ages of being penetrated, she’s finally killed by penetration? I dunno…..Or that she started it all and won’t be able to assist AFP in finishing it?
November 11th, 2007 at 7:49 am
Ow, right in the boob.
November 11th, 2007 at 8:21 am
“He was a human the last time they were lovers.”
So, I was right! I’d assumed that Val was the “Bang’em THEN turn’em,” type. She seemed to like to be in control, the time with Murdo at least, so it makes sense.
November 11th, 2007 at 8:32 am
Wow, Val got owned right there
Somehow, when I look at TFZ, all I can think of him saying is “Remember me, bitch? “.
November 11th, 2007 at 8:42 am
wow. well,she did kinda deserve it for teh whole killing of mankind by turning him to a vamp thing
November 11th, 2007 at 9:03 am
“Pwnd!”
November 11th, 2007 at 9:07 am
Haha..eewww Murdo’s grandpa had sex with her…and murdo also did it..shes passed everywhere, nassttyy ._.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:08 am
I don’t really think it would be fair to blame her entirely for that. When she turned him she was recruiting soldiers to fight in WWII. Probably a little careless but nothing more devious than that.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:25 am
So, I’m really loving three days in a row of updates, but oh how I will miss Val’s boobies.
November 11th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Yes, 61st comment. great page “yay we have hope,….. nevermind.”
November 11th, 2007 at 11:26 am
I like how Own put the armored zombies over tfz’s shoulder when hes staking Val. Very subtle, but adds to the fantastic details of the comic. Makes it even more enjoyable to read. The emotion in their faces is also conveyed really really well.
Bobby and Owen, you guys never cease to amaze me.
Awesome comic.
November 11th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Oops, sorry for the spelling error. I like how Owen*
November 11th, 2007 at 11:35 am
The only way I can see for that panel to be better if if as Val looks in his eye and said his name as he steaked her. But all ion all a great plot twist in a great story.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
“It would be much more dramatic and keep the story rythm if it showed, i dont know, Val being staked than already dead on the floor.”
Did you skip Panel 4 for some reason? Why would we show her getting staked twice?
“During the night attack in the building, weren’t zombies supposed to kidnap Val in order to prevent her from committing suicide?”
Correct. Changed his mind in a moment of weakness when remembering that he still loves her, decided to spare her the torture.
“he stakes her between her breasts… and then the stake suddenl moves to her armpit? WTF?”
At no point is the stake anywhere near her armpit — what the hell are you talking about?
“I don’t really think it would be fair to blame her entirely for that. When she turned him she was recruiting soldiers to fight in WWII. Probably a little careless but nothing more devious than that.”
No, it was a lot worse than that.
“The only way I can see for that panel to be better if if as Val looks in his eye and said his name as he steaked her.”
That would reveal one of the biggest twists of the story a little too early. And “Francis” is the least dramatic name ever to say while dying.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
So no torture?!
That means Mohawk Vampire Lives!!!
WOOOOOOO!!!
Also for the guy that mentioned the poetic “Death by penetration” thing.
Spot on man. Spot On.
November 11th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
Could a vampire be killed by a toothpick to the heart? If you jammed it in hard enough?
November 11th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Vampires shouldn’t be able to use stakes themselves. That’s just seven kinds of cheating.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
I just noticed Val’s right hand is resting on her hip.
Due to death, wouldnt it slip right off and end up with her arm crossing behind her in death limp?
Or maybe we caught it mid slip as her arm hit her side, before it slipped back.
and I love Murdo’s face. Its basically a ‘Fuck yea’ face. Though I doubt in the situation he would stand there after being freed instead of turning around to take on the armor zombies. But it seems he was stupid, and decided to stare at Val, get chained back up, like Bobby confirmed, and watch Val die
November 11th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Uh… yeah… Mohawk Vampire will not go through torture, but that doesn’t mean that he will remain the same… I believe it has been previously mentioned that the briefcase that Addison had earlier contained a cure for vampirism, and will be opened on the last page of the comic.
I would guess that when the case is opened, either the air will fill with some gas that will counteract vampirism and return them all to humans, or will contain drugs that all the vampires take to return to humans.
If they become humans… they cant suffer through 65 years of torture from not enough blood… but they would no longer be vampires as well…
At least, this is what I think is going to happen from reading *most* of Bobby’s posts, but then again I may have missed a few that dealt specifically with this. If that is the case, I am sorry for posting incorrect information
November 11th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
“counteract vampirism and return them all to humans”
Some of them were born vampires, though, and can’t be turned into humans. Also, there’s no rush to turn back into humans — they’d have at least 50 years probably before that would be necessary, and they still need some vampire strength to fight some upcoming battles (after the first GN ends). Only one vampire will become human again in this first story.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Someone misspelled Owen before, and wrote Own instead. I insist that he did not make a mistake, and that Owen does in fact own. Awesome job on this page.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
“Only one vampire will become human again in this first story. ”
Would that be TFZ? Or maybe Murdo…
November 11th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The name, ‘Good-bye, my lover’, is that in reference to Murdo, or was the schaemic involved with Val sometime in the past?
November 11th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that TFZ is Hitler just because of his funny hair.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
“Would that be TFZ?”
TFZ isn’t a vampire. So it obviously wouldn’t be him. Plus he dies.
“The name, ‘Good-bye, my lover’, is that in reference to Murdo, or was the schaemic involved with Val sometime in the past?”
It has been answered before on THIS PAGE, and please learn how to spell schaemiac.
-Ana
November 11th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Thank you, Anko.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
“TFZ isn’t a vampire.”
Just to let you know, I did refer to him as a vampire earlier in the comments (he’s the “vampire” who is killed by a human), but only because he’s killed like a vampire (stake through the heart). He’s neither vampire or zombie, but a combination of both, a schaemiac.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Ok, just trying to get my head around how this all works, this is what I have picked up so far:
1. Vampires heal from ANYTHING except a stake. If they are blown up they re-form from the bits.
2. Only thing that can kill a schaemiac is a stake.
3. Schaemiac’s dont heal like vampires? – This is where I am confused. TFZ still has that bullet hole in his head and obviously lost an eye a while ago that hasent healled. If a stake is the only thing that can kill a schaemiac what would happen if they were dismembered or blown to bits etc. I doubt they would come back together like T2 or he would have healed his bullet wound.
Any suggestions?
November 11th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Schaemiacs are essentially all powerful in many ways and they can choose which wounds heal and which don’t. He chose to let the bullet hole remain because he wanted to appear dead and be carried away by Grady and Murdo so he could get close to them and hear their conversation. He lost the eye in the coffin somehow and wounds don’t heal when you’re going through the hunger pains. Only a wooden stake through the heart can kill a schaemiac.
November 11th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
yes Val died! I liked her at first but she was getting anoying (sorry to all those that liked her ^_^)
November 11th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Can’t believe how many people have been having difficulty figuring out what the title of the page meant. It was blaringly obvious to me! Don’t feel bad, guys – I guess some people were just looking beyond the obvious for hidden meanings
Alas, poor Val, we knew ye too shortly. It seems such a sad way for her to go – I’m sure she wanted to go out fighting, not staked suddenly when she wasn’t expecting. I wish to add my compliments to those already given to Owen – the emotions are wrought large upon everyone’s faces on this page. Very well done.
Someone asked if a vampire could be killed by a toothpick to the heart. Sure they could – if it is a wooden toothpick and not one of those fancy, new-fangled plastic ones – if someone could actually push it into said vampire’s heart. If a stake-like weapon is make of wood, it should do the trick. This should like-wise apply to: pencils, random twigs, handles from various tools, table legs, etc. etc.
November 11th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
“wounds don’t heal when you’re going through the hunger pains.”
Does this mean that you could kill a vampire / schaemiac during the transition period (65 years of hunger pains) by means other than a stake?
November 11th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
You bastards did that just to piss us off, didn’t you?
November 11th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
She stabbed Murdo accidentally. Rofl!
November 11th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Another question about TZF:
Why didn’t he let the wound heal on his head after he was left alone by Grady and Murdo?
Awesome comic!!
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(First post ever
November 11th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
“Why didn’t he let the wound heal on his head after he was left alone by Grady and Murdo?”
After a certain amount of time it can’t heal anymore.
“Does this mean that you could kill a vampire / schaemiac during the transition period (65 years of hunger pains) by means other than a stake?”
Couldn’t kill them, no — could simply mutilate them, which wouldn’t cause them any more pain than they’re already in (no pain is worse).
November 11th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
By one panel I mean just one page, they could at least made it longer. Her death just seems so…quick. I dont want her death to be just like that
November 11th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
So say you wait til the hunger pains start, then hack a vamp into 10,000 pieces? 65 years of torture, followed by a really really sucky eternal life as body parts?
November 11th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Clearly TFZ let those wounds remain to add to his Baddass-ness. Lets face it, panel 5 is quite possibly the coolest thing ever!
November 11th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
There’s a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. Such a pity he had to ruin hers.
November 11th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
November 11th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
“So say you wait til the hunger pains start, then hack a vamp into 10,000 pieces? 65 years of torture, followed by a really really sucky eternal life as body parts?”
That would be TFZ’s plan probably if he was smart enough to think of it. Schaemiacs can’t feel pain, though, not at all, so it wouldn’t matter much at that point, the difference between being locked up, chained, can’t move, as compared to being in a million little pieces (but still no pain).
November 11th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Hm…. Vampire to human. Math? Was he born a vampire? I dunno. I would get really sick of smelling the B. O. from billions of zombies. But that’s just me.
It would also give him a chance to help help repopulate with help from our friendly school teacher. ::Snicker!:: Buuuuut…. That’s just what I would do.
November 11th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
*sniff*
November 11th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
“I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that TFZ is Hitler just because of his funny hair.”
Hitler was killed by Matheson. He still has the sword too. And if the hair was supposed to be an indication, don’t you think he’d still have half a moustache? Besides, Hitler was human. Math did him in with a blade through the back of his neck out the mouth. If he was a vampire he’d need: A) a stake through the heart, B) if he was turned, he’d need more time to become a schaemiac, because 62 years it just a few too shy of 65.
November 11th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Really, though. bobby, how much more action, if any, do you plan on giving Math?
Also, is it April, Mac, or Grady who kills TFZ? Probably April.
It would be awesome if Mustache Man killed TFZ. “HAI GUYZ IM BACK LOL”
November 11th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Blargh: Hardly any, but he is the entire focus of the last 2-3 pages.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
If someone stabbed out TFZ’s only remaining eye, would he be blind? Or can he see through the eyes of the zombie horde? Or does he not use eyes to see?
November 11th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
He uses whatever he wants to see. He could use your dead ass to see.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Hey, read this comic for quite awhile just wanted to say great job man! Awesome artwork, compelling story, and an honestly original plot line.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
By dead ass did you mean literally or just a figure of speech? Cause if he can do that as a literal meaning, that he just passed a new threshold of creepiness.
November 11th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I meant literally, but I was joking. I don’t like to think much about questions that won’t ever come into play in the story. He’s not going to lose his eye — he’s going to be killed in like six pages (hopefully). People keep asking a million questions about things that haven’t come up and will never come up. It’s like a Star Trek convention, I guess. Anyway, the answer is that he obviously doesn’t need his brain to think, since he was shot right through the middle of the forehead, so I don’t think he’d need his eyes to see, no, but again, it doesn’t come into play. He’s more of a spirit, really, than a physical being, but his heart is still vulnerable, in more ways than one (changed his mind and spared Val from the torture because he loved her, and now he might also change his mind to spare some of the humans).
November 11th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Hmm… The flyer vamp is in chains, so much so the genesis resolution. The first zombie has made an entrance with a statement. This is going to be interesting.
November 11th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
I like the con reference in boby’s last post, very true.
A few questions about the axe. If I remember right, this is the same axe we saw in the back of mac’s truck in the very beginning.
It started as a small, crappy-looking little hatchet and grew up for the big battle. then it was a double edged axe in the middle of the fight. Afterwards it shrunk somewhat into what it is now. Then Val gets it, and it completely disappears when she gets staked. Just a few minor mistakes that I personally find funny.
November 11th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Will there be a moment in the story where Murdo realizes that he and his great-grandfather had sex with the same woman?
November 11th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
He’ll discover that in 1-4 pages.
November 11th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Quick question here,
Where would the TFZ hide himself to transform himself into a schaemic? would it have to be some place where no one could find him to help him or would other vampires just not care or notice if he was in that much pain for 65 years?
November 11th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
“Where would the TFZ hide himself to transform himself into a schaemic?”
In a coffin at the bottom of the ocean (see Page 1).
November 12th, 2007 at 12:23 am
i love the art.
poor val.
TFZ looks awesome.
November 12th, 2007 at 12:54 am
Is that the same stake that didnt kill Math and killed Valery??
November 12th, 2007 at 1:04 am
“There’s a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. Such a pity he had to ruin hers.”
Omgad, “A Princess Bride” quotage there. Yeah, I caught it.
I love Murdo’s expressions here. The first one, where Val doesn’t have the time to carefully cut his chains; and the second one, where he’s all, “whooo yeah!”
…And then we go into that death scene. O_O It’s such a jump out of the action; I know I’ve already said this but it makes such an impact. O_O
Why does she free him though? I mean, is he just closest, or…?
November 12th, 2007 at 1:06 am
I still dont get why he becomes so damn powerfull, its just another vampire right? a starved and crazied vampire, but a vampire after all…
Why is he so invencible? cant he just be staked in the hearth like normal vampire?
November 12th, 2007 at 1:26 am
“Is that the same stake that didnt kill Math and killed Valery??”
Don’t know what you mean by the same stake that didn’t kill Math.
“Why does she free him though? I mean, is he just closest, or…?”
Multiple reasons: She currently feels like she owes him the most out of all the vampires, since she basically just let his whole family die, and because he has the most motivation to save the humans, since he knows them all and was one himself a few hours ago, and also because she couldn’t find Rage quick enough, who was covered head to toe in chains.
“its just another vampire right? a starved and crazied vampire, but a vampire after all…”
No, totally different being. Half vampire, half zombie, all powerful.
“cant he just be staked in the hearth like normal vampire?”
Uh, yes, that’s how he dies soon, as I’ve said many times on this page alone.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:01 am
Just… putting my two cents in. I guess I shouldn’t have read the comments, but meh, kind of disappointed to know what happens. *shrugs* Would have loved to see what exactly happens on it’s own. Does he die? Does he go into a rage? etc etc. Not my choice, but my few quirps about the topic.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:03 am
Didn’t like Val. Not really surprised or hurt that she’s dead now.
But, uh, is it just me or is the first vampire..grimacing? Like, he’s not sneering hatefully..looks like he’s somehow hurt by it. And the shock on her face indicates hurt (not, you know, stake-through-the-boob-hurt) and familiarity, too.
Maybe I’m just looking too much into it.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:15 am
Alice: That’s all correct, yes.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:49 am
Ouch. Lovely art today- the blood in this is always so well done.
TFZ is a jerk.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:07 am
Wow, what a twist. I doubt anyone really saw that coming.
You say that Murdo will discover that he and his great-grandfather both slept with Val. Does this mean we’re going to ‘hear’ TFZ speak…or is AFP going to make some amazing revelations?
November 12th, 2007 at 7:43 am
I didn’t think I’d miss Valerie too much when she died but now I’m kind of sad. She died while trying to help everyone.
Dang it! What’s taking Sullivan so long!?!
November 12th, 2007 at 7:44 am
Someone asked if that was the same stake that didn’t kill Math. Well, since Math is alive, that kinda makes EVERY stake the stake that didn’t kill Math. I mean, if any of you want, I suppose I could sell you my whole collection of stakes that didn’t kill vampires.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:45 am
Sorry for the double post, but this was asked while I was typing my last reply. I just have to get this in, before anyone else does.
“Dang it! What’s taking Sullivan so long!?!” – Probably rotting legs.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:51 am
I’m pretty sure that Bobby openly acknowledged a little way up the page that I’m smarter than TFZ.
On a (hopefully) unrelated note, I had a dream last night–no joke–that I was banned from this site. It was a very bad dream.
November 12th, 2007 at 8:01 am
Here’s a thought. Bobby’s said that mutilation that is done while undergoing the schaemiac process is permanent. What if a Schaemiac had a partner, someone to watch over him durring the process to make sure no one interferes, and to cut out his heart (not with a wooden implement, so it shouldn’t count as a staking)? This would allow the schaemiac to keep his one vulnerable part in a completely innaccessable place (like a Lich), effectively making the schaemiac totally invulnerable. Possible?
November 12th, 2007 at 8:04 am
How much time passed between TFZ breaking out of his coffin and his arrival on Cali.
Also, I totally cracked up when you said Francis. Took me four minutes to regain compsur.
November 12th, 2007 at 8:21 am
Hey, i just thought. can TFZ speak at all? or does the half zombie part sort of erase his abilities like speech and stuff?
November 12th, 2007 at 8:36 am
“Also, I totally cracked up when you said Francis. Took me four minutes to regain compsur.”
Poor guy. I really pity him. Horrible name. Hearing his name made me start to sympathize with him, which soon lead to him becoming my favorite character. Also, his badassness was a big factor.
November 12th, 2007 at 9:10 am
Maybe she could say “Frankie…” as he stabs her…wait…how is that better? Oh well.
November 12th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Maybe she could say “Frankie…” as she dies..wait…how is that better? Oh well. No help for Francis.
November 12th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Sorry for the double post. This computer sucks.
November 12th, 2007 at 9:18 am
“This would allow the schaemiac to keep his one vulnerable part in a completely innaccessable place (like a Lich), effectively making the schaemiac totally invulnerable. Possible?”
One, that isn’t relevant relevant to the plot, and how dare you engage in speculation about the master artist’s work? (sarcasm)
Two, I’m going to follow the bulk of vampire tradition and say that a vamp (or schaemic) would be alive but immobilized if you removed their heart.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:06 am
IF THIS WEBCOMIC ISNT MADE INTO A MOVIE I WILL GO MAD!!!!
November 12th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Art: Wondering what your source material is for that being the “bulk” of vampire lore?
I saw this documentary called “Pirates of the Caribbean 2″ which strongly suggested you survive if you cut out your heart. So there.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Er…not sure what my point was with that last line…so…yeah.
November 12th, 2007 at 11:17 am
“# Bumtown Says:
November 11th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
There’s a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. Such a pity he had to ruin hers.”
ROFL
I agree.
November 12th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
So, Mac wasn’t the only human on the ground fighting? I thought Grady was on the roof sniping. How many other humans are on the front lines?
November 12th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
I’m sorry if it had already been asked: I searched a bit with google, but there’s so many ways to express that question I’ll ask it: to get rid much more quickly of the zombie horde than with swords, clubs, axes and guns, why didn’t the vampires use heavy weapons, such as grenade/rocket launchers, flamethrowers, gatlings, or even a tank? They could have loaded all they needed in the plane they came with, and would have been capable to hold the zombies at bay with such firepower.
November 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
“Look, Val died.” Had to laugh about this one, congrats to the artist for the ewpresion of mental pain in second last panel…
November 12th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
*Sniff*
And it seems like only a few seconds ago she was hacking Murdo in the chest…
November 12th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
@Sigel:
There are a couple of answers apparent from previous Bobby comments and the events of the comic:
A) It takes a headshot or decapitation to kill a zombie. A lot of the weapons mentioned might not be able to guarantee this.
B) The TFZ controls ALL military firepower in the world. It’s probably hard for the vampires to get ahold of any.
C) Because of B, if they broken out the heavy firepower, TFZ might as well, which would instantly annihilate the humans.
D) They had to crash the plane. If it was stocked with explosives and other heavy arsenal, that would have been a bad scenario.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
What is up with TFZ’s hair? It’s so neat and coiffed. I wouldn’t think that he would take the time to do it when he first got out (and I doubt that it could stand 65 years on the ocean floor). Did he use super-future-hair gel or something? Or is he just really into his hair, even as a schaemiac? Or, is it possible that super-hair is a manifestation of the all-powerful powers that come with being TFZ?
November 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
“Hitler was killed by Matheson. He still has the sword too. And if the hair was supposed to be an indication, don’t you think he’d still have half a moustache? Besides, Hitler was human. Math did him in with a blade through the back of his neck out the mouth. If he was a vampire he’d need: A) a stake through the heart, B) if he was turned, he’d need more time to become a schaemiac, because 62 years it just a few too shy of 65.”
Apparently, Hitler was actually a zombie during WWII (or possibly a schaemiac, as I don’t think the future knows about that). Also, in the future, Math is apparently named Killsword.
My proof? http://www.wickedpowered.com/d/20071112.html
Tell me that does not look like Math. And he kills Hitler in exactly the way described above. Also; FANGS.
November 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Wolfaitor: Hitler was never a zombie or vampire, as I’ve said a million times.
November 12th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Nice page!
when floored her eyes changes and give her that; “Argh, Im done for!” look.
Am I the only one that has the impression that she just got the only possible cure for vampirerism? Is that even a word?
Auch! thats my bet on whats in the box that AF Paine drags arround. The box with the cure for Vampierism probly contains a wooden stake…would that be lame or what?
November 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
You know, I just thought, TFZ killing Val is almost an act of compassion. I mean, with roughly the entire population of the planet as his zombie slaves, it would be pretty easy to just re-chain her. This way she’s dead and doesn’t have to endure the 65 years.
November 12th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
“You know, I just thought, TFZ killing Val is almost an act of compassion.”
I’ve said that like 10 times already on this comments page.
November 12th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Well, to be honest, my sources are mainly video games and movies. But, yeah, there are many traditions that say you can fix your life to some object and thence be immortal, but mostly those stories don’t mix with vampires. Vampires are usually held to already be dead. (Fun fact: According to Christian tradition, the Sun is actually the flaming sword of the angel Uriel who was set in the heavens to look down on humans and prevent demonic infiltration, which is why it kills vamps.)
Bobby’s vampires appear to be based on some kind of parasitic/symbiotic bacteria, which don’t mind sun but have an unusually strong allergy to wood of all things.
November 12th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Ok, quick question I hope someone can answer:
How the blazes do you pronounce “schaemiac”?
Shay-me-ak?
Skay-me-ak?
Shay-my-ak?
Skay-my-ak?
Is that a real word or a totally made up one or a little of both?
November 12th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
The first one (SHAY-ME-ACK). It’s a play on ischemia –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ischemia
November 12th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Argh: Vampirism.
Wolf: Hitler wasn’t a zombie (bobby said so), but that is pretty much the Hitler death scene, just with an eye falling out. Math is just awesome anyway.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I absolutely adore TFZ’s expression when he’s stabbing Val–The serious look on the greater portion of his face mixed with the slight grin on his mouth’s left hand corner. I must say, Owen continues to do a bang-up job, especially on his faces.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Wolf: 1st. Using another webcomic as proof of you argument is somewhat pointless. 2nd. I believe said web comic is made by Bobby’s sibling, 3rd. Naturally one would assume some inside jokes between the two of them. And finally if Bobby said Hitler wasn’t a zombie, then Hitler wasn’t a zombie. I now rest my argument.
by the way great page as always.
November 12th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
My first reaction was definitely “now THAT’s a bitter ex-boyfriend”
I didn’t really like Val that much, but she kicked ass and i admire her for dying trying to help the others.
Bobby: “The first one (SHAY-ME-ACK). It’s a play on ischemia –”
OOooh Tricky. Nice, it’s awesome to have meaning in details like that. *is further impressed by your awsomeness*
also, Jesse: “I saw this documentary called “Pirates of the Caribbean 2″ which strongly suggested you survive if you cut out your heart. So there.”
I had a similar thought when the cutting out of hearts was mentioned..
And to those making connections between the Hitler/Math scene and the Zombie-hitler/Killsword scene in Wicked Powered, i suggest some research regarding the artist and which comics he does.
November 12th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Great comic as always! I just wanted to express my fanaticism.
Poor Val? I don’t know I was just kind of apathetic to her.
I’m loving how the storyline is panning out.
Also I don’t understand why if people have a question they don’t check the comments first? Chances are like 50 people have already asked the same question. Ctrl-F people—it will save you and Bobby hella time.
Thanks for making such a great comic!!
November 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
ivan Says:
November 12th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Wolf: 1st. Using another webcomic as proof of you argument is somewhat pointless. 2nd. I believe said web comic is made by Bobby’s sibling, 3rd. Naturally one would assume some inside jokes between the two of them. And finally if Bobby said Hitler wasn’t a zombie, then Hitler wasn’t a zombie. I now rest my argument.
i don’t think he was seriuse when he stated that hitler was a zombie based on that comic….i think he was joking, to many people on here take stuff to seriusly
November 12th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
MY favorite thing if a bit ironic is that she frees murdo, tells him to free the others…but then DOESNT give him the axe XD. Murdo was like ” Oh yeah its friggin on…ahh crap val…val?! *chains again*”
November 13th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Man I can’t wait to see the look on Murdos face when he realizes his ancient father slept with the same woman.
“EW! DUDE!! *Points at TFZ* SICK!”
November 13th, 2007 at 1:34 am
Not that it’s relevant to the story at hand, but I noticed the insignia on TFZ’s (Francis!? LOL) shoulders and am curious to know if he was an officer in whatever military branch he was a member of?
Also, this one act has redeemed TFZ a little in my eyes. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still a jerk for offing every other human in the planet.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:51 am
Bobby – maybe you could consider making an archive page so that browsing between random pages is easier.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:56 am
Blah, that would take forever. If someone else wants to make one, I’ll link to it.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:57 am
“I saw this documentary called “Pirates of the Caribbean 2″ which strongly suggested you survive if you cut out your heart. So there. ”
Wow, I guess I totally missed the fact that the half-octopus man was a vampire…oh, wait… He WASN’T. How do you imagine that statement haveing anything to do with the comic.
That being said I’m not aware of any really old vampire lore stating that removing the heart will immobilize a vampire. Plus the “bulk of vampire lore” as it was put, says that decapitation and sunlight kill vampires, so it’s not really a good basis for any arguement about the comic to be based on. PLUS TFZ is NOT a vampire anymore.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:07 am
Sorry for double posting but:
“Not that it’s relevant to the story at hand, but I noticed the insignia on TFZ’s (Francis!? LOL) shoulders and am curious to know if he was an officer in whatever military branch he was a member of?”
As far as I know he was an US pilot (probably US Marines pilot in the rank of Lieutenant – but i’m only guessing this)
November 13th, 2007 at 3:09 am
He was a little bitch, that’s what he was.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:52 am
Something I’ve been wondering for a while… Why do the vampires have black eyewhites (thats the word right? Eyewhites?) Do their eyes have a special ability like them being able to smell blood? Because Matheson already revealed they can walk around in daylight, so a ‘creature of the night’ type of thing where they need their eyes to see in the dark seems useless.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:11 am
I honestly think that someone is going to break off the handle of the ax and kill TFZ with it, the darn thing has been kinda a running prop through the whole comic and it kinda makes sense.
Also on this page, when we see TFZ put the stake through Val, he seems to both hate what he’s done and yet enjoy it, kinda like he’s wanted to do that for a while but he can’t believe he actually did it. On another note, its great and noble Payne came up with a genesis plan if things became to desperate, but he should have planned on the psychology of the one he chose to help carry that out as well.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:52 am
I think it’s so we can differentiate between the vampires and humans…
November 13th, 2007 at 6:12 am
” “I saw this documentary called “Pirates of the Caribbean 2″ which strongly suggested you survive if you cut out your heart. So there. â€
Wow, I guess I totally missed the fact that the half-octopus man was a vampire…oh, wait… He WASN’T. How do you imagine that statement haveing anything to do with the comic. ”
Micah, two things–
First: Questions usually end in a question mark.
Second: Was it so, so difficult to read the very next post, literally an inch down the page, where I said this…
“Er…not sure what my point was with that last line…so…yeah.”
…signifying that I was both joking and I realized it was a bad and pretty irrelevant joke?
Are you the kind of person who asks questions that have been answered multiple times on the very page you are currently reading?
November 13th, 2007 at 6:48 am
“Also I don’t understand why if people have a question they don’t check the comments first? Chances are like 50 people have already asked the same question. Ctrl-F people—it will save you and Bobby hella time.”
Or reading the FAQ, which might answer some said questions.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Anko: I think the reason why people don’t do that is ebcause they’re either lazy or selfish. Or both. They’re too lazy to do something simple when it would save Bobby time or because they just don’t care about others.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:37 am
I added a Trivia section on the wiki link Bobby gave us
I hope it doesn’t get deleted 
November 13th, 2007 at 7:38 am
ART:
(Fun fact: According to Christian tradition, the Sun is actually the flaming sword of the angel Uriel who was set in the heavens to look down on humans and prevent demonic infiltration, which is why it kills vamps.)
I don’t know where the heck you have gotten your info but I am christian and no where in the bible nor in true christian belief does it say that the Sun is some flaming sword, and anyway the only flaming sword that I can remember off the top of my head is the one that the angel wields to guard the Tree of Life.
And so this isn’t off-topic, I can’t wait for the next page Bobby, I check like twice a day to see if it’s been updated.
November 13th, 2007 at 8:02 am
i love the look on murdo’s face, that everything is going to be ok look. as if they’d have had any chance even if val lived.
November 13th, 2007 at 9:23 am
“Bobby – maybe you could consider making an archive page so that browsing between random pages is easier. ”
As requested…
http://www.freewebs.com/lastbloodfaq/archive.htm
November 13th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Anko, there are five types of awesome in this world. At the moment, you’re hovering between AFP, and Chuck Norris.
Thank you!
November 13th, 2007 at 10:45 am
That is probably the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on the internet.
You’re welcome!
November 13th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Anko, you’re WAY more than 5 kinds of awesome.
November 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
(Fun fact: According to Christian tradition, the Sun is actually the flaming sword of the angel Uriel who was set in the heavens to look down on humans and prevent demonic infiltration, which is why it kills vamps.)
Well, this is a bit of a misrepresentation. There isn’t really any “Christian” Tradition that’s accepted amongst all denominations, first off. Second, that sounds more like Hebrew Myth, kinda like the stuff with Lilith (mythical first wife of Adam who was a total bitch so God let Adam kick her out and then she went on to marry Satan, who made her a demon queen, and she gave birth to all manner of monsters and demons and that kinda stuff.) But that’s myth, not tradition. It’s not even really apophryca. But yeah, in myth, that’s what they say it is. If you go by what Christians actually believe, it’s a great light that God put in the sky to make the day bright. Which it does nicely.
Oh, incidentally, in a world that’s been host to any race, the sun must naturally be the source of all energy and nourishment, so for any race to be harmed (in great amounts) by the sun would be really bad, evolutionarily. I mean, geeze, how the hell would you survive when every 12 hours something happens to half of the entire planet that can kill you in a few seconds?
November 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
(Fun fact: According to Christian tradition, the Sun is actually the flaming sword of the angel Uriel who was set in the heavens to look down on humans and prevent demonic infiltration, which is why it kills vamps.)
… In accepted protastant Christian tradition there are only three named Angels Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer. Uriel which is sometimes accepted in Catholic Dogma is the Angel of repentance and is known as the Fire of god due to him having a large flaming sword. The idea that he is the sun has absolutly no merit or as far as I have heard been mentioned at all. And seeing as the creation of light is mentioned directly in the first chapter of Genisis i think it would have been mentioned there somewhere.
Also the concept of vampires was not something that was studied alot by the church as was more of a cultural thing that changed depending on your region. The most important being in central europe during the 18 (I think) century where an outbreak of rabies was mistaken for vampires.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
And the outbreak of the old people breakfast rush at IHOP last Thursday, where it was mistaken for a zombie uprising.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Ten points to jon-yndor House. (I do read the comments).
November 13th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Oh lord… not just an internet arguement… a RELIGIOUS internet argument
you people need to get together and have a punch out or something. Why not stick to the matter at hand here?
Great comic page! I can’t wait to see how everything turns out ^.^
And did it occur to anyone that Murdo will want to be turned back into a human?
November 13th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Last night I finished I AM LEGEND, fucking awesome book. Richard Matheson was a fucking genius. Bobby, you should use some of his ideas for vampirism. Mr. Matheson explained why stakes work when guns didn’t (internal body “glue” which repairs damage almost instantly), why sun-light kills them (bacterium with photosensitivity, passing it along to it’s host), and the psycological reasons for fearing the cross and mirrors (deep inset hatred of their state of existance making mirrors a non-lethal deterant. Fear of crosses is only for Christian vampires, having their faith torn from them. A religious symbol is only affective against something that worshipped it when it was alive).
November 13th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
Sunlight and crosses and mirrors don’t affect the vampires in “Last Blood,” though. I’ve still never read a vampire or zombie book. Plan to eventually, I guess.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
I had to mention them because even though they don’t affect vampires in this graphic novel, the book gives awesome explainations. Also, was Dracula a schemiac?
November 13th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
No such thing as Dracula in “Last Blood.”
November 13th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Just asking, cause in general vampire fiction (which I live and breathe like air) Dracula is either the patriarch of the vampire race, or the just most powerful of them. My brain went Bulgaria=Transylvania (totally false BTW but I get bulgaria and Romania mixed up sometimes) and I jumped to conclusions. Sorru
November 13th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Does garlic affect the ability to smell? I think I read on the FAQ that Sullivan’s tunnel was lined with it, and Math noticed that he had troubles smelling the zombies once they got underground.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
That was probably due to them being underground. I have trouble smelling corpses in a cemetary, and they are underground like 3 feet away. Then Math put his nose on April, blocking the smell from his nose until it was too late.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
In Last Blood, Count Vlad Teppes Dracula, AKA Vlad the Impaler, was most likely exactly what he was in reality: a human being who was criminally insane, liked to torture and maim people, and had thousands of rumors and legends built up around him. The “real” Vampires in Last Blood no doubt got tired of all the BS that Humanity made up around him and labeled their race with.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Question, are there any other humans hidden away alive or a stash of vampires chained up but able to be cured of vampirism after the events of the story?
It would be quite the bummer if the vamps and humans seen would be the only humans left afterward. Too small a population means that at most humanity would have a few more generations.
I can’t remember if the figure for the absolute minimum viable population before the gene pool gets too small for species survival. If I remember correctly it was either 500 or 5000.
November 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Bobby, you mention a vampire reverting back to being a human. In this story, is vampirism a biologically induced condition, or a supernatural one?
November 13th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
It’s probably not relevant in this story, but what would happen if a pregnant woman got bitten by a zombie? Would she continue to gestate post-zombification, or would the baby die after the 24 hour transformation is up?
November 13th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Okay, Uriel is the Sun according to /one/ Christian tradition. *shrugs* Some aspect of the Christian mythos alter with time just like most religious traditions. Even if the Church didn’t devote a great deal of thought to vampires in specific, it did accept the existence of demonic interlopers in the world. There’s a famous book about it which I can’t spell the name of; something like Malcus Malfarcum (?) which talks about witches and incubui and such things. And of course, the populace came up with its own traditions.
Another fun vampire religious fact: Vampires don’t breathe as a sign they are dead; but it also a sign that they are cut off from the Holy Spirit. (Spirit is derived from the Latin word spiritus, which means breathe.)
November 13th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Vampires do breathe in this story.
“but what would happen if a pregnant woman got bitten by a zombie?”
Zombie baby within 24 hours.
“In this story, is vampirism a biologically induced condition, or a supernatural one?”
Not sure what you mean. Vampires are made from one vampire drinking the blood of a human until that human is dead, then that human comes back to life (within a minute) and needs to drink a pint of another human’s blood, and now they’re a new vampire. I have yet to answer how the first vampires started (no plans to, but might eventually).
“are there any other humans hidden away alive or a stash of vampires chained up but able to be cured of vampirism after the events of the story?”
No more humans, possibly some more vampires (but not chained up), definitely at least one more schaemiac. I suggest reading through all the comments to find some long conversations about repopulation.
“Does garlic affect the ability to smell?”
If it does, it’s just slightly — not enough to do any good.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Wouldn’t a baby inside a pregnant women that has been turned into a vampire turn into a vampire itself? i mean the baby eats what the mother eats and would have all of the blood transfer as the mother right? or would the baby just die, I dont think it would turn into a zombie…
November 13th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
crap I didn’t read it properly lol any ways mother bit by vampire what would happen?
sorry =)
November 13th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
“mother bit by vampire what would happen?”
In that case the baby would be in such horrible pain before getting a pint of blood that it would explode and die. It would be the most disgusting thing ever.
November 13th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Wouldn’t the fact that the fetus shares a blood supply with the mother be a way for the fetus to get the pint o’ blood it needs to go from hunger pains to being a vampire?
November 13th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Not in time. Explodes almost instantly.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
@Aqua, blood does not transfer between the mother and the fetus, though the blood carries nutrients and removes waste, it never mixes with the blood of the unborn child.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
This is a topic that I would be very happy to see dropped, covered in napalm, burned, buried, then the earth above it salted so nothing ever grows there again.
It’s a perfect example of what happens when you force Bobby to answer something that has no bearing whatsoever on the universe he’s crafting. Things get really effing weird.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
to answer a question earlier minimum requrered population is 100 non immidietly related individualsso no son or daughter or mopthers and fathers grandmother or grandfathers or cosins
November 14th, 2007 at 12:54 am
Wolfaitor (or something like that) pointed us to this page:
“My proof? http://www.wickedpowered.com/d/20071112.html”
Oh, yeah, I remember when I first saw this page – it was about the time a similar page was up on this comic. Coincidence? Hmmm.
BTW, a few days back we were discussing the shortage of brains nowadays amongst the population (which would probably lead any zombie uprising to actually starve to death before it could really get its feet on the ground). I was reading something today that gave some interesting ideas along those lines, but I don’t want to bring all that up here. If you click my name it’ll take you to my LiveJournal, where I make a post outlining what I learned.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:28 am
“If you go by what Christians actually believe”
well then, that’s QUITE the statement buddy.
In my experience there are as many beliefs as there are people, and half of them aren’t sure. End of argument. I am SO sick of religeous arguments online, i do not want to see this site overrun with them, especially since it was started by soemone mentioneing a reason for the sun killing vampires, which it doesn’t in this story!!! Squabbling over religeon is such a futile thing… almost akin to humans fighting eachother in the face of a zombie apocalypse…
November 14th, 2007 at 2:44 am
First off, really nice work on this comic. just got linked here by a friend that thought I should see it, and voila I was hooked. So really exceptional work.
When can we expect the next page to come out?
November 14th, 2007 at 2:46 am
In about 40 minutes.
November 14th, 2007 at 3:01 am
keeps getting better and better. good work you two
fustratingly, as much as I don’t want spoilers I can’t resist reading the comments.. damn my lack of willpower
November 14th, 2007 at 4:01 am
How exactly does the bullet thing work? I remember April shooting Math, and it healing quickly, but where did the bullet go? Did it go right through him, is it still in his chest, Did his body’s immune system deposit it in his stomach?
November 14th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Wow, didn’t see that one coming..
My first reaction was rather sad,
But I’m more anxious to see this through to it’s end.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I… am at a loss for words.
This is/was/will always be Brilliant with a capital B.
November 20th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
And I agree- we definently need more Matheson.
December 5th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Damn and she looked great in a corset
December 12th, 2007 at 9:02 am
THIS IS THE BEST PAGE SO FAR!
April 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am
And another died when stating the obvious.
don’t they ever look where they walk?
May 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
that’s right, all vampire’s going to die!!!
Go Humans!!! or Zombies whatevers.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 am
Xena got owned.